0001424: Thirsty, Hungry and Drowsy states do not show at Health screen

(0005235)
Myxine (reporter)
2010-04-26 19:32

Got it too.
In my first fortress I used to see hungry/thirsty/drowsy status in the health z-screen but it stopped after a few years, and I haven't seen them in any fort since.

(Could it possibly be from init options? I think it stopped when I set ECONOMY:NO and a few other things, I'll try it tomorrow.)

(0009595)
toybasher (reporter)
2010-07-03 15:52

Same here, hungry thirst and drowsy and there extreme counterparts are NOT showing up in health screen

(0009605)
oliver (reporter)
2010-07-03 21:19

What's your chief medical dwarf's Diagnosis skill? Higher skills appear to make more conditions to be visible on the Health screen - perhaps a sufficiently low skill omits hungry/thirsty.

(0009614)
toybasher (reporter)
2010-07-04 08:09

skilled diagnossis.

(0021884)
Kogut (reporter)
2012-03-29 23:11

Thirsty and hungry states (drowsy is untested) are visible at health screen in 34.06 (CMD with skilled diagnossis).

(0023195)
toybasher (reporter)
2012-07-09 10:10

Still in 0.34.11

I can confirm that I also had the "Minor" thirst/hunger showing up at the beginning, but now only the starving/dehydrated are appearing.

Frustrating because I like to easily be able to check on how hungry/thirsty my fort gets so I know when to start cranking out more booze/food.

(0024041)
toybasher (reporter)
2013-06-27 12:34

I realized this may be intended behavior because the chief medical dwarf's diagnostics skill may be rusting over time. Perhaps if working as CMD increased diagnostics or at least prevented it from rusting this would no longer occur.

(0028715)
Saiko Kila (reporter)
2014-08-10 07:38

The same problem is present in 0.40.06. That is status of Hungry dwarves and animals doesn't show on the health screen, while status of Starving animals show. Also Thirsty dwarves apparently also are not shown. Don't know about Dehydrated ones.

Here in this save some animals are Hungry, some are Starving, only Starving ones are shown on health screen.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9340 [^]

(0028719)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-08-10 07:45
edited on: 2014-08-10 07:48

The thing is, being Hungry/Thirsty/Drowsy is a normal thing to experience temporarily. It's not a medical condition; it wouldn't make sense for a doctor to get involved. I don't think this is a bug. It only seems like a bug because people are using the healthcare screen in a way that wasn't really intended.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-22 04:56	Dorten	New Issue
2010-04-23 02:20	Dorten	Tag Attached: healthcare
2010-04-23 02:20	Dorten	Tag Attached: interface
2010-04-26 19:32	Myxine	Note Added: 0005235
2010-07-03 15:52	toybasher	Note Added: 0009595
2010-07-03 21:19	oliver	Note Added: 0009605
2010-07-04 08:09	toybasher	Note Added: 0009614
2012-03-29 23:11	Kogut	Note Added: 0021884
2012-07-09 10:10	toybasher	Note Added: 0023195
2013-06-27 12:34	toybasher	Note Added: 0024041
2013-06-27 12:35	toybasher	Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-08-09 13:49	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: Dwarfu
2014-08-10 07:38	Saiko Kila	Note Added: 0028715
2014-08-10 07:45	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0028719
2014-08-10 07:46	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-08-10 07:46	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => no change required
2014-08-10 07:46	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-10 07:47	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0028719	View Revisions
2014-08-10 07:48	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0028719	View Revisions
2015-02-18 03:28	Dwarfu	Issue End Monitor: Dwarfu

Notes
(0005235) Myxine (reporter) 2010-04-26 19:32	Got it too. In my first fortress I used to see hungry/thirsty/drowsy status in the health z-screen but it stopped after a few years, and I haven't seen them in any fort since. (Could it possibly be from init options? I think it stopped when I set ECONOMY:NO and a few other things, I'll try it tomorrow.)

(0009595) toybasher (reporter) 2010-07-03 15:52	Same here, hungry thirst and drowsy and there extreme counterparts are NOT showing up in health screen

(0009605) oliver (reporter) 2010-07-03 21:19	What's your chief medical dwarf's Diagnosis skill? Higher skills appear to make more conditions to be visible on the Health screen - perhaps a sufficiently low skill omits hungry/thirsty.

(0009614) toybasher (reporter) 2010-07-04 08:09	skilled diagnossis.

(0021884) Kogut (reporter) 2012-03-29 23:11	Thirsty and hungry states (drowsy is untested) are visible at health screen in 34.06 (CMD with skilled diagnossis).

(0023195) toybasher (reporter) 2012-07-09 10:10	Still in 0.34.11 I can confirm that I also had the "Minor" thirst/hunger showing up at the beginning, but now only the starving/dehydrated are appearing. Frustrating because I like to easily be able to check on how hungry/thirsty my fort gets so I know when to start cranking out more booze/food.

(0024041) toybasher (reporter) 2013-06-27 12:34	I realized this may be intended behavior because the chief medical dwarf's diagnostics skill may be rusting over time. Perhaps if working as CMD increased diagnostics or at least prevented it from rusting this would no longer occur.

(0028715) Saiko Kila (reporter) 2014-08-10 07:38	The same problem is present in 0.40.06. That is status of Hungry dwarves and animals doesn't show on the health screen, while status of Starving animals show. Also Thirsty dwarves apparently also are not shown. Don't know about Dehydrated ones. Here in this save some animals are Hungry, some are Starving, only Starving ones are shown on health screen. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9340 [^]

(0028719) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-08-10 07:45 edited on: 2014-08-10 07:48	The thing is, being Hungry/Thirsty/Drowsy is a normal thing to experience temporarily. It's not a medical condition; it wouldn't make sense for a doctor to get involved. I don't think this is a bug. It only seems like a bug because people are using the healthcare screen in a way that wasn't really intended.

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