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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0001986Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Militarypublic2010-05-20 03:202014-08-04 15:01
ReporterChthon 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionunable to reproduce 
PlatformPCOSWindows 7OS VersionWindows 7
Product Version0.31.03 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001986: Military Units strip from their uniforms when given orders to kill.
DescriptionI set up a military unit to use axes in general when fighting. They would go on their business and equip them while doing their day jobs (Inactive) as lumberjacks. However when I initiated a kill order, they threw down their weapons and charged in to wrestle with the target.

I then tried to specifically designate who gets what axe thinking that there was some confusion, however while I can see the axes laying on the ground, they do not appear on the weapon list at all.

I just reclaimed, and these axes still do not show up. They are Iron Battle Axes. The one axe that shows is a Copper Battle Axe, and he will drop even that if I give a kill order. They are not forbidden, designated for dumping, or melting. Why won't my dwarves use these axes?
Steps To ReproduceGive your military uniforms.
Give them orders.
They drop weapons and charge.
Additional InformationIron Battle Axes were produced on site/reclaimed. (Copper Battle Axe) was embarked with. Only (Copper Battle Axe) shows on the equipment list.
TagsEquipment
Relationships
child of 0000535acknowledged Toady One Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-05-20 03:20ChthonNew Issue
2010-05-20 03:48Jiri PetruNote Added: 0007056
2010-05-20 09:55FootkerchiefNote Added: 0007077
2010-05-20 09:55FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-05-20 15:30Jiri PetruNote Added: 0007097
2010-05-20 17:18ChthonNote Added: 0007103
2010-05-20 19:03ChthonNote Added: 0007111
2010-05-20 19:10ChthonNote Added: 0007112
2010-05-20 19:38ChthonNote Added: 0007113
2010-05-20 19:40ChthonNote Deleted: 0007113
2010-05-20 19:41ChthonNote Edited: 0007112bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0007112#r2656
2010-05-20 19:58ChthonNote Edited: 0007112bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0007112#r2657
2010-05-20 19:58ChthonTag Attached: Equipment
2010-12-30 05:48QuietustNote Added: 0014756
2010-12-30 13:57FootkerchiefRelationship addedchild of 0000535
2011-01-05 15:06QuietustNote Edited: 0014756bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0014756#r5629
2011-01-05 15:07QuietustNote Deleted: 0014756
2012-03-20 19:48FootkerchiefNote Added: 0021627
2012-03-26 10:20thvazIssue Monitored: thvaz
2012-04-08 08:26thvazNote Added: 0022150
2012-04-08 08:26thvazTag Attached: CLOSE THIS
2012-04-08 10:20FootkerchiefTag Detached: CLOSE THIS
2012-04-08 10:20FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2013-09-23 09:29FootkerchiefNote Added: 0024132
2013-09-23 09:29FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2013-09-23 09:29FootkerchiefResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2013-09-23 09:29FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-04-21 03:41thvazIssue End Monitor: thvaz
2014-08-04 15:01FootkerchiefTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE

Notes
(0007056)
Jiri Petru   
2010-05-20 03:48   
This happens (I think) because dwarves tend to continue wearing old equipment, even if they are assigned something else. Once you activate them, they realize they have a wrong uniform and begin stripping. Then, if they can't pick up the new equipment (usually because someone else is still using it), they proceed to go on without it.

The reclaim issue is a separate bug - nothing that was being used before abandonment will be usable after reclaim.
(0007077)
Footkerchief   
2010-05-20 09:55   
I think this is largely the same as 0001451.
(0007097)
Jiri Petru   
2010-05-20 15:30   
This is also probably a duplicate of 0000678, and I bet it's related to 0000892.
(0007103)
Chthon   
2010-05-20 17:18   
Might have to do with the armsmaster noble assigning Dwarf A's equipment to Dwarf B, yet Dwarf A will not relinquish it until he's forced to find his own equipment when activated.

I haven't yet tried to use only specific outfits. This might correct this, however I have a large mess of iron battle axes and iron spears that are not available for my (now) one military dwarf to equip. They are not shown when I choose specific weapon.
(0007111)
Chthon   
2010-05-20 19:03   
Upon viewing my stocks screen, I have the following weapons:
*iron battle axe*
+iron battle axe+
-iron battle axe-
(iron battle axe) (x2)
iron battle axe (x7)
(copper battle axe) (x2)
*iron spear* (x3)
+iron spear+ (x3)
-iron spear- (x2)
iron spear (x2)
(copper pick) (x4)
(bronze pick)
(fungiwood blowgun)
(spore tree blowgun)

However when I go into the military equipment screen and choose specific weapon I see only this:
(copper battle axe)

I think this may have something to do with the issue since so long as my lone axe dwarf is assigned that copper battle axe he will use it, but if I set up generic weapons or assign it to someone else noone uses any weapons. Could this glitch be a result of another glitch preventing valid weapons from appearing in the equipment menu?
(0007112)
Chthon   
2010-05-20 19:10   
(edited on: 2010-05-20 19:58)
Just gave him some move orders and some kill orders. He sucessfully hunted and killed a deer manually with my orders. He even used my axe. However, even though he is set to cut wood, he ignores any and all jobs before and after to instead do individual combat training. This I believe is related to a separate bug in the military system.

Edit: Just bought a pair of (bronze greaves) and a (-copper shield-) from a caravan. Neither of these show up on the equipment menu either.

I'm going to pin a save onto this so maybe someone else with experience with military bugs can test this out and see if it's related to old bugs or new ones entirely.

Final: Save is located at http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2388 [^]
I have given much information there as well. I will add the additional issues with equipment not showing up in the ticket notes.
(0021627)
Footkerchief   
2012-03-20 19:48   
Toady may need an up-to-date save (0.34.02+) to fix this problem. It would be helpful for someone to upload a save to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.
(0022150)
thvaz   
2012-04-08 08:26   
Don't happen after 34.01. Kill orders are bugged when the target flee the map, but never once the soldiers dropped their equipment.
(0024132)
Footkerchief   
2013-09-23 09:29   
Please reopen this report or PM me on the forums if you have a save that reproduces this problem in 0.34.11+.