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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000218Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Embark/Setuppublic2010-04-02 19:502020-02-18 13:38
Reportert-man 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusconfirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformOSWindows XP OS VersionSP3
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000218: Vermin meat/organs can be obtained from embark/caravan
DescriptionI put in about 50 Rat Meat from the Embark screen. Once I embarked, however, I could only find a group of Rat Remains.
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Tagsbutcher, embark, merchants, trading, vermin
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related to 0000722resolved Toady One Embark profile warns that fish not available, but they actually are 
related to 0003736new  Can purchase impossible wooden trap components on embark 
parent of 0005476new  You can't butcher vermin but you can buy goods that require it. 
has duplicate 0000749closed Footkerchief Insect brains / vermin meat available at embark (and presumably caravans) 
has duplicate 0002835resolved Footkerchief Vermin meat available upon embark 
has duplicate 0008530resolved Footkerchief Caravan brings prepared vermin parts 
related to 0010954acknowledged Loci Food/drink preferences are buggy (bugs and references to related reports) 
Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed.
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-02 19:50t-manNew Issue
2010-04-02 19:54DoctorZuberNote Added: 0000379
2010-04-07 16:38FootkerchiefSummaryRat meat turns to Rat Remains on Embark => Can buy vermin meat on embark screen, turns into remains after embarking
2010-04-07 16:38FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000749
2010-04-07 17:35FrogwarriorNote Added: 0001897
2010-04-20 15:13QuietustNote Added: 0004385
2010-04-20 15:56FootkerchiefDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=1484#r1484
2010-04-29 13:22FootkerchiefCategoryGeneral => Dwarf Mode -- Embark/Setup
2010-07-25 15:27FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002835
2010-07-25 15:28FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000722
2010-07-25 15:31Felix the CatNote Added: 0011025
2010-08-03 14:19InsanityPreludeNote Added: 0011459
2010-11-28 18:01ethanbNote Added: 0014288
2012-02-26 20:23Logical2uRelationship addedparent of 0005476
2012-05-15 09:00FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0003736
2014-11-08 16:12FootkerchiefSummaryCan buy vermin meat on embark screen, turns into remains after embarking => Vermin meat/organs can be obtained from embark/caravan
2014-11-08 16:12FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0008530
2014-11-08 16:12FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-11-08 16:12FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed
2015-01-23 15:09BenLubarNote Added: 0032055
2015-01-23 15:09BenLubarIssue Monitored: BenLubar
2018-04-13 11:57HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2018-08-19 21:21a52Note Added: 0038723
2018-08-19 21:21a52Tag Attached: vermin
2018-08-19 21:21a52Tag Attached: butcher
2018-08-19 21:21a52Tag Attached: trading
2018-08-19 21:21a52Tag Attached: merchants
2018-08-19 21:21a52Tag Attached: embark
2018-08-20 02:08PatrikLundellNote Added: 0038725
2018-08-20 04:38RafatioNote Added: 0038726
2018-11-12 12:29LociRelationship addedchild of 0010954
2018-11-12 12:31LociRelationship replacedrelated to 0010954
2020-02-18 13:38FantasticDorfNote Added: 0040104

Notes
(0000379)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-02 19:54   
#xxx creates a link
(0001897)
Frogwarrior   
2010-04-07 17:35   
May be worth noting that insect brains do not turn into remains upon embark, so you can have lots of delicious prepared ant brains.
(0004385)
Quietust   
2010-04-20 15:13   
A recently created adventurer started with a stack of 5 prepared large roach brains. This seems wrong somehow...
(0011025)
Felix the Cat   
2010-07-25 15:31   
FWIW, I just embarked with worm meat and prepared blue jay brains and the like, none of it turned into remains according to the kitchen screen.
(0011459)
InsanityPrelude   
2010-08-03 14:19   
They're usable, but I still doubt that being able to get barrels of bug brains is an intended behavior.
(0014288)
ethanb   
2010-11-28 18:01   
My guess is that worldgen entities aren't respecting the [NOT_BUTCHERABLE] tag on small vermin. Player-controlled dwarves and adventurers aren't able to dissect the brain from an ant corpse, which is pretty reasonable. The problem seems to be that non-player controlled civs ARE able to do so.
(0032055)
BenLubar   
2015-01-23 15:09   
I've seen prepared tick brains in 0.40.xx Play Now embarks.
(0038723)
a52   
2018-08-19 21:21   
Still present in 0.44.12. Save here: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13972 [^]
(0038725)
PatrikLundell   
2018-08-20 02:08   
I've seen various stuff that you can't normally get. I typically bring some cave fish leather, for instance. However, this issue becomes more than an oddity if dwarven food preferences can target these food items, although I haven't noted any case of that happening.
(0038726)
Rafatio   
2018-08-20 04:38   
Food preference for vermin is possible. Doesn't specify brains, but thats 0004665
(0040104)
FantasticDorf   
2020-02-18 13:38   
Still in 47.03

These appear to be mistaken or non-functionally intentional since from the butcher's shop, captured adult creepy crawler vermin have enough muscle to render precisely 1 meat from them using the "Extract from a dead animal" job order which ironically uses only living vermin. (amongst harvesting extracts from spiders/fire snakes using vials)

A [NOT_BUTCHERABLE] rat's brain is too small to process even though dwarves may at a stretch, eat a entire rat as a object when starving.