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0002225Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Militarypublic2010-06-09 04:062014-01-29 10:45
Reporterschlappi 
Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilitysometimes
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformmsOSwindowsOS Version7 (64bit)
Product Version0.31.05 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002225: Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with shield instead of axe
DescriptionOne of my dwarves with zero experience in axe using managed to kill an elephant in my current game. He did not gain axe skill, but is now a dabbling misc object user.

I recall having a squad of misc object users in my first (0.31.01?) game when creating a squad of axedwarves without appropriate skills.
Steps To ReproduceEquip untrained dwarves with battle axes and let them fight in the arena.
Additional Information
Tagsbattle axes, fighting, misc object user skill
Relationships
related to 0000535acknowledged Toady One Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic 
related to 0006421resolved Footkerchief Marksdwarves won't use archery targets until they reach novice skill 
has duplicate 0003067resolved Footkerchief Axedwarves use shield as their primary weapon in combat 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-06-09 04:06schlappiNew Issue
2010-06-09 04:06schlappiTag Attached: battle axes
2010-06-09 04:06schlappiTag Attached: fighting
2010-06-09 04:43Jiri PetruNote Added: 0007981
2010-06-09 04:51schlappiNote Added: 0007982
2010-06-09 05:06schlappiNote Edited: 0007982bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0007982#r2986
2010-06-09 05:24snelgNote Added: 0007983
2010-06-09 05:40schlappiNote Added: 0007985
2010-06-09 05:41schlappiNote Edited: 0007985bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0007985#r2988
2010-06-09 06:53FootkerchiefSummaryAxedwarf gains "misc object user" skill after combat => Dwarf with no Axe skill wields axe in combat, gets Misc Object User skill
2010-08-03 03:32schlappiNote Added: 0011432
2010-08-03 03:33schlappiTag Attached: misc object user skill
2010-08-03 04:32Rafal99Note Added: 0011433
2010-08-03 05:41QuietustNote Added: 0011435
2010-08-21 09:24FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0003067
2014-01-21 20:06FootkerchiefSummaryDwarf with no Axe skill wields axe in combat, gets Misc Object User skill => Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with a shield instead of an axe
2014-01-21 20:06FootkerchiefSummaryUnskilled dwarf prefers to fight with a shield instead of an axe => Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with shield instead of axe
2014-01-21 20:07FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0003067
2014-01-21 20:07FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2014-01-21 20:14FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000535
2014-01-29 10:45FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006421

Notes
(0007981)
Jiri Petru   
2010-06-09 04:43   
What weapon did he use?
(0007982)
schlappi   
2010-06-09 04:51   
(edited on: 2010-06-09 05:06)
He used a local produced steel battle axe.
(0007983)
snelg   
2010-06-09 05:24   
Did you check the combat logs if he was really using the axe? Just a thought was that maybe he got a hold of something else before or during the combat. But elephants don't really have any clothes or anything he might've been able to use, right? Did he have a shield or something else? Maybe he used that instead for some reason.

I'm assuming these kinds of items would count as misc objects, if they aren't I guess you can just ignore this. :D
(0007985)
schlappi   
2010-06-09 05:40   
(edited on: 2010-06-09 05:41)
He was nicely chopping away with his *steel battle axe*, sending elephant pieces everywhere ;)
(0011432)
schlappi   
2010-08-03 03:32   
I found out on another occasion that it was the shield bashing which gave him the misc. skill. Dwarves assigned to weapons which arent available yet due to hauling jobs or else use their shield as offensive weapon, thus gaining the misc object user skill.
(0011433)
Rafal99   
2010-08-03 04:32   
Wasn't shield bashing training shield user skill back in 40d? Seemed more correct to me considering that shields were sometimes used offensively in real life.
(0011435)
Quietust   
2010-08-03 05:41   
In 40d (and even back in 23a), shield bashing trained Wrestling, and dwarves seem to prefer shield bashing over punching/wrestling.

It's possible the dwarf shieldbashed the elephant to the point of knocking it over, then switched to the axe to finish it off (which wouldn't have given any Axe experience, since attacking a prone target gives no experience).