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0003169Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Equipmentpublic2010-09-07 08:342018-01-19 03:35
Reporterwatcher 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Statusneeds feedbackResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.12 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0003169: Bone carvers suffer art defacement when somebody leaves the map with stuck-in masterpiece bolts
Descriptionbone carvers will make masterpiece bolts and then freak out when they're shot at things and broken.
Steps To Reproduce1) get a good bone carver (like like 10)
2) make him make a bunch of bolts
3) wait till he makes a masterpiece
4) shoot the bolts
...
6) your civilization has crumbled into dust.
Additional Informationthis probably applies to other kinds of bolts as well
TagsNo tags attached.
Relationships
related to 0005021resolved Toady One "Masterwork has been lost" when merchants leave with traded items 
has duplicate 0003376resolved Logical2u Bone carvers get unhappy thoughts when masterful bolts are used 
has duplicate 0006053resolved Footkerchief Masterwork wooden bolts cause art defacement penalties when broken during hunting. 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-09-07 08:34watcherNew Issue
2010-09-07 08:44QuietustNote Added: 0012479
2010-09-07 09:04Hieronymous AlloyIssue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2010-09-07 09:04Hieronymous AlloyIssue End Monitor: Hieronymous Alloy
2010-09-08 04:38watcherNote Added: 0012498
2010-09-08 05:29CrytenNote Added: 0012500
2010-09-08 05:57snowNote Added: 0012502
2010-09-08 06:39kwielandNote Added: 0012503
2010-10-06 10:33Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003376
2010-10-06 10:34Logical2uNote Added: 0013224
2010-10-06 10:34Logical2uSummarymasterpiece bone bolts => Bone carvers suffer art defacement when masterpiece bolts are used
2010-10-06 10:36EddyPNote Added: 0013225
2010-10-06 10:51EddyPNote Edited: 0013225bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0013225#r5121
2010-10-06 12:31Hieronymous AlloyIssue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2010-10-07 11:22Malibu StaceyNote Added: 0013243
2011-03-24 15:49XelsolNote Added: 0016528
2011-03-24 16:55FootkerchiefSummaryBone carvers suffer art defacement when masterpiece bolts are used => Bone carvers suffer art defacement when somebody leaves the map with stuck-in masterpiece bolts
2011-03-24 18:37XelsolIssue Monitored: Xelsol
2011-03-24 18:46QuietustNote Added: 0016540
2011-03-31 12:01jcnorrisNote Added: 0016866
2011-04-23 03:47KogutNote Added: 0017477
2011-08-13 14:44TelarinNote Added: 0018502
2011-12-25 22:18SanNote Added: 0019257
2011-12-26 09:58KogutIssue Monitored: Kogut
2011-12-27 06:55kwielandNote Added: 0019260
2011-12-27 06:56kwielandNote Edited: 0019260bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0019260#r7189
2012-01-12 22:22FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005021
2012-02-26 11:51BuglistIssue Monitored: Buglist
2012-04-15 07:39tatterdemalianNote Added: 0022271
2012-05-21 13:24garanisNote Added: 0022650
2012-06-24 22:18FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0006053
2015-01-05 09:17ptb_ptbNote Added: 0031701
2015-01-05 15:00FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2015-01-05 15:00FootkerchiefStatusnew => needs feedback
2018-01-19 03:35Sarmatian123Note Added: 0037672
2018-01-19 03:37Sarmatian123Issue Monitored: Sarmatian123
2018-04-25 16:46HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2019-01-04 23:05Sarmatian123Issue End Monitor: Sarmatian123

Notes
(0012479)
Quietust   
2010-09-07 08:44   
Are you actually getting "masterpiece lost" messages?

My fortress's marksdwarves have used up thousands of masterwork bone bolts in target practice, and my bone carvers are all ecstatic.
(0012498)
watcher   
2010-09-08 04:38   
Yes I am!

I've taken to forbidding the offending stacks of masterwork bolts.
(0012500)
Cryten   
2010-09-08 05:29   
The talk used to be that it was the number of masterworks that the crafter has that affects how disturbed he gets for art defamation. I don't know if things have changed since then though. Also I'm curious if this is target practice or live fire? Perhaps they wont be annoyed if you use them for killing things.
(0012502)
snow   
2010-09-08 05:57   
What did you shoot bolts at?
Maybe they're getting annoyed if you shoot things that run off map... with bolts stuck in.
(0012503)
kwieland   
2010-09-08 06:39   
My experience is the same as Quietust. I make thousands of masterwork bolts and have never had "masterpiece lost" message. Unless I destroy them in an atom smasher or something. Or melt them. They don't like it when you melt them (the metal ones, that is).
(0013224)
Logical2u   
2010-10-06 10:34   
Modified the title so it's more useful for searchers.
(0013225)
EddyP   
2010-10-06 10:36   
(edited on: 2010-10-06 10:51)
I don't get the 'masterpiece lost' message, but my bonecarver got unhappy thoughts from 'art defacement' when my marksdwarf shot at some invaders. Bolts are all he's made.

EDIT: Looking closer, I found the MP lost message.
(0013243)
Malibu Stacey   
2010-10-07 11:22   
This doesn't affect wooden bolts. One of my embark dwarves became a Legenday Woodcrafter from a Fey mood in which she created a wooden harp. She's now churning out stacks of wooden bolts for my marksdwarves, most of which are masterwork & doesn't have any mention of art defacement in her info nor any masterwork lost announcements when they use them for training.

Looks like another artifact of the new materials system & probably related to the bug where bone artifacts don't use any materials beyond the base material no matter how many extra materials the dwarf collects.
(0016528)
Xelsol   
2011-03-24 15:49   
I just had the same problem. My hunter was shooting some masterwork yak bone bolts at a mountain goat, a few got lodged into it, the goats were replaced with groundhogs at the end of the month before the one in question died (and thus vanished), taking my masterwork bolts with him.

I do not believe this is a "minor" issue. It will lead to this fort's demise due to a tantrum spiral (he lost 3 masterpieces in the blink of an eye).
(0016540)
Quietust   
2011-03-24 18:46   
Xelsol: the unhappiness caused by masterpiece destruction is inversely proportional to the number of masterpieces that have been created by the dwarf in question - if a dwarf's first and only masterpiece is destroyed, he'll go insane with grief, but if he's produced thousands of masterpieces and just one of them is destroyed, he won't mind much.
(0016866)
jcnorris   
2011-03-31 12:01   
My legendary woodcrafter is now very unhappy about art defacement. After becoming legendary due to a fey mood, he made several stacks of bolts, and nothing else. There was a MP lost announcement.
(0017477)
Kogut   
2011-04-23 03:47   
still in .25
(0018502)
Telarin   
2011-08-13 14:44   
This also applies to metalworkers and metal bolts. My archers have been filling up the local demon population with steel bolts. Unfortunately, a side effect of this is that some of the bolts are destroyed when they miss and sink to the bottom of the magma sea. I then invariably get the "A masterwork of Urist McMoodydwarf has been lost!" and Urist McMoodydwarf suffers the travesty of art defacement.
(0019257)
San   
2011-12-25 22:18   
Does anyone know a good workaround? Obviously you can take this into account ahead of time, but will having the dwarf produce more masterpieces after the fact help any?
(0019260)
kwieland   
2011-12-27 06:55   
(edited on: 2011-12-27 06:56)
After the fact, probably not. However, churning out tons of masterpiece bolts will lessen the effect until it is less than "annoyed by the sun", ie, (new york accent) forgetta bout it.
(0022271)
tatterdemalian   
2012-04-15 07:39   
Still in v34.07. It's really frustrating that I have to forbid every stack of steel masterwork bolts my weaponsmiths grind out, because not only do they churn them out by the ton, but they also freak out just as much if one of three hundred masterwork bolts are fired and broken as they do when one of their first 25 is. My legendary weaponcrafter went from "ecstatic" to "miserable and tantruming" in a single ambush, from the breaking (not theft) of 8 masterwork steel bolts.
(0022650)
garanis   
2012-05-21 13:24   
This is a big deal. My best miner and part-time weaponsmith just beat my mayor/baron to death in a tantrum because a goat left with a masterwork iron bolt stuck in it's side.
(0031701)
ptb_ptb   
2015-01-05 09:17   
The emotion system has been completely re-done since this bug was reported. Is anybody experiencing real stress problems based on bolt loss in DF 0.40.whatever?
(0037672)
Sarmatian123   
2018-01-19 03:35   
DF 0.44.05, vanilla client. 110 population limit.

"A masterwork of Kogan Tiristzas has been lost!"

"[white]She feels [yellow:]empty[/yellow] after suffering travesty of art defacement[/white]"

This Dwarf is my WOODCRAFTER-16, who made tones of wooden hunting bolts. After clicking I get zoomed to edge of the map. I notice 5 hunters there. One of them carrying dead kakapo. I check reports and I am seeing the hunt of kakapo took place by the map edge. Like 2-5 spaces away from the place the "master work has been lost" is zoomed to. Report mentions repeat hits by master quality *oaken bolt*. Like 10 at least.

I have save. Would you like me to upload it?

My guess is a hunter shot one of those master quality bolts outside of map...