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0004063Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Transport/Haulingpublic2011-02-23 12:472011-02-24 17:29
ReporterBriggs 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionno change required 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS VersionWindows XP SP3
Product Version0.31.19 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004063: Creatures often Unbutcherable
DescriptionEverytime I kill a creature by some means other than a hunting dwarf or slaughtering a tame creature, I come into this problem. The dwarves grab the corpse of the creature and take it to my dump rather than my refuse piles. I try to schedule an order to Butcher a Dead Animal at the butcher shop and I get the message that it requires a nearby unrotten butcherable animal. I check the dump and the corpses are Forbidden, so I unforbid them. A stream of dwarves then comes down to get the unforbidden corpses, then drop them right back in the same place (dump) again with them listed as Forbidden again.
Steps To ReproduceKill something other than by hunting or slaughtering.
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Tagsbutcher
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2011-02-23 12:47BriggsNew Issue
2011-02-23 12:49BriggsIssue Monitored: Briggs
2011-02-23 12:51FootkerchiefNote Added: 0015428
2011-02-23 12:51FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-23 21:01BriggsNote Added: 0015435
2011-02-24 10:05InfiltratorNote Added: 0015448
2011-02-24 10:05InfiltratorTag Attached: butcher
2011-02-24 10:05InfiltratorIssue Monitored: Infiltrator
2011-02-24 12:07FootkerchiefNote Added: 0015460
2011-02-24 12:08BriggsNote Added: 0015461
2011-02-24 12:08ellindseyNote Added: 0015462
2011-02-24 12:10BriggsNote Edited: 0015461bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0015461#r5831
2011-02-24 12:10BriggsNote Added: 0015463
2011-02-24 12:16ellindseyNote Added: 0015464
2011-02-24 12:17BriggsNote Added: 0015465
2011-02-24 12:20ellindseyNote Added: 0015466
2011-02-24 12:24FootkerchiefNote Added: 0015467
2011-02-24 12:28BriggsNote Added: 0015468
2011-02-24 13:01FootkerchiefNote Added: 0015471
2011-02-24 13:01FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2011-02-24 13:01FootkerchiefResolutionopen => no change required
2011-02-24 13:01FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2011-02-24 13:01FootkerchiefTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-24 17:29InfiltratorIssue End Monitor: Infiltrator

Notes
(0015428)
Footkerchief   
2011-02-23 12:51   
Have you tried changing (o)rders regarding refuse and corpses?
(0015435)
Briggs   
2011-02-23 21:01   
What options should I change it to? I've told them to gather all corpses (not just Dwarf corpses) and to ignore refuse outside.
(0015448)
Infiltrator   
2011-02-24 10:05   
I'm having this same problem. I set up a special refuse stockpile specially for butchering next to my butcher. This works perfectly fine for hunting kill returns, but if an animal dies by any other means, such as by the military or starvation, then the butcher will refuse to touch it even though it's in a stockpile a tile away and isn't forbidden.
(0015460)
Footkerchief   
2011-02-24 12:07   
Reminder sent to: Briggs

You should tell them not to auto-forbid corpses. This might not solve the problem, but it needs to be ruled out as a contributing factor.
(0015461)
Briggs   
2011-02-24 12:08   
(edited on: 2011-02-24 12:10)
I'm here right now, so I'll give that a shot.

*** I just checked my Orders>Forbid screen. This is what it shows:

Claim used ammunition
Claim your dead
Claim your death items
Claim other dead
Claim other death items

So nothing should be getting forbidden.
(0015462)
ellindsey   
2011-02-24 12:08   
What kind of creature is it? Very small creatures (rabbits, cavies, ducks, buzzards, and guineafowl) are almost always unbutcherable due to being too small to yield even a single unit of meat, fat, or bone. Young or small members of larger species may also sometimes be too small to butcher. And it isn't surprising that a creature that died of starvation won't be butcherable, since only tame creatures can starve.
(0015463)
Briggs   
2011-02-24 12:10   
@ellindsey: Water Buffalo, Draltha, Crundle, Cow, Horse, etc. All things that should be butcherable.
(0015464)
ellindsey   
2011-02-24 12:16   
DO you have them set to Save corpses, or Dump corpses?
(0015465)
Briggs   
2011-02-24 12:17   
@ellindsey: Where is that option set?
(0015466)
ellindsey   
2011-02-24 12:20   
Orders -> Refuse, I think. Don't have a copy of DF I can check handy on this computer.
(0015467)
Footkerchief   
2011-02-24 12:24   
This one is more likely to get fixed if you upload a save demonstrating the problem. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0015468)
Briggs   
2011-02-24 12:28   
ellindsey fixed it. I had it set to dump bodies >.< Sorry!
(0015471)
Footkerchief   
2011-02-24 13:01   
Okay, cool.