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0000417Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Equipmentpublic2010-04-04 13:382014-07-14 11:45
Reporterd4ftfad 
Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000417: Axedwarf with missing hand wields shield and axe in same hand.
DescriptionAxedwarf who is missing her left hand (was her shield hand) now picks up and wields both axe and shield in the one remaining hand.

I do not know what will happen in combat - can they block and swing with the same hand?
Steps To Reproduce- Chop off a soldier's hand, where the soldier is assigned a shield and weapon
Additional Information
TagsEquipment, multi wield
Relationships
child of 0000535acknowledged Toady One Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-04 13:38d4ftfadNew Issue
2010-04-04 16:54QloosTag Attached: Equipment
2010-04-04 16:54QloosTag Attached: multi wield
2010-04-06 10:01FootkerchiefRelationship addedchild of 0000535
2010-04-06 12:43FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-04-06 12:45FootkerchiefSticky IssueYes => No
2010-04-06 14:15bowdown2qNote Added: 0001579
2010-04-06 15:17DoctorZuberNote Added: 0001601
2010-04-06 15:23DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0001601bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0001601#r471
2010-04-07 08:49ZasNote Added: 0001752
2010-07-17 01:21OzoneGrifNote Added: 0010482
2010-07-17 09:11FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010497
2010-07-17 09:12FootkerchiefNote Deleted: 0010497
2010-07-17 09:12FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: OzoneGrif
2010-07-17 09:12FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010498
2010-07-17 10:16OzoneGrifNote Added: 0010499
2010-07-24 05:34OzoneGrifNote Added: 0010903
2010-07-24 08:36FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010912
2010-12-01 01:15rampagingpoetIssue Monitored: rampagingpoet
2012-03-20 19:48FootkerchiefNote Added: 0021628
2012-03-26 09:26thvazIssue Monitored: thvaz
2012-03-26 09:27thvazNote Added: 0021743
2012-03-26 09:27thvazIssue End Monitor: thvaz
2012-03-26 09:27thvazIssue Monitored: thvaz
2012-03-28 03:55kaypyNote Added: 0021819
2012-03-28 05:28kaypyNote Edited: 0021819bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0021819#r8133
2012-06-02 03:35KogutNote Added: 0022810
2012-06-02 14:10Khym ChanurNote Added: 0022813
2012-06-03 02:13caldfirNote Added: 0022818
2014-07-14 11:45SirPenguinNote Added: 0026345
2014-07-14 11:46SirPenguinNote Edited: 0026345bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0026345#r9827
2018-04-13 13:03HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0001579)
bowdown2q   
2010-04-06 14:15   
maybe he's just badass like that; taped an axe to his shield and runs screaming into combat.

Reading the description, I thought he'd jammed the axe handle into his bloody stump.
(0001601)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-06 15:17   
(edited on: 2010-04-06 15:23)
that's actually what I thought from the title as well.
(0001752)
Zas   
2010-04-07 08:49   
Actually, maybe it's not a bug. I can totally imagine how someone could hang a shield on their arm an then take an axe with the same hand. In old versions I even had healthy dwarfs do this: like, having two bucklers, an axe and a shield.
(0010482)
OzoneGrif   
2010-07-17 01:21   
I have this problem right now, on v31.10.

Indeed, I could imagine wearing a weapon in the hand and a buckler attached to the forearm, but I doubt it could be done with a shield.

Shield + Weapon in the same hand sound weird.
(0010498)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-17 09:12   
Reminder sent to: d4ftfad, OzoneGrif

It would be helpful to upload saves demonstrating this problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0010499)
OzoneGrif   
2010-07-17 10:16   
Uploaded : http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2715 [^]
(0010903)
OzoneGrif   
2010-07-24 05:34   
for info, this is still present in v31.11 after testing the save.
(0010912)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-24 08:36   
Thanks, that's helpful.
(0021628)
Footkerchief   
2012-03-20 19:48   
Toady may need an up-to-date save (0.34.02+) to fix this problem. It would be helpful for someone to upload a save to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.
(0021743)
thvaz   
2012-03-26 09:27   
This one will be difficult to test, but I will try to notice if this situation will arise.
(0021819)
kaypy   
2012-03-28 03:55   
(edited on: 2012-03-28 05:28)
Hmm. Sounds like it should be reproducible if you can organize a one handed dwarf. Lets see what happens if I embark with 6 dabbling axedwarves and a surgeon...

[edit]
It's harder than it sounds to remove a dwarf's hand without removing them from this mortal coil altogether
(0022810)
Kogut   
2012-06-02 03:35   
related to 0001000: Militia commander grabs all new weapons in the same hand.
(0022813)
Khym Chanur   
2012-06-02 14:10   
It would probably be easier to mod a game so that all dwarves have only one hand. Go into raw/objects/body_default.txt and edit [BODY:HUMANOID] to remove the tags for the left arm and left hand (or right arm and right hand).
(0022818)
caldfir   
2012-06-03 02:13   
Noticed this in a recent reclaim. Dwarf lost the hand years ago, but is still shuffling about pretty much as effective as ever.

I think that the axe was assigned before the dwarf was injured, but he didn't get around to picking it up until after recovering from his injuries.

behold: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6417 [^]
(0026345)
SirPenguin   
2014-07-14 11:45   
(edited on: 2014-07-14 11:46)
Bug still exists as of 40.02, but it's morphed a bit. Here are my findings

In the arena, chopping off a shield arm makes it impossible to unsheath (q) my shield. It complains I need a free grasp

However, I can remove (r) the shield (or pick up (g) a shield on the ground), which allows me to hold both a sword and shield with one hand. I can then attack and block with it.

Despite that, once I give the dwarf back to the AI it appears they auto-sheath if there are no enemies. Then if I attack that same dwarf - the one with a missing hand - they can unsheath the sword but not the shield.

I'd conclude that so long as sheathing/unsheathing is a regular mechanism that all NPCs use, I'd assume people will rarely encounter this bug in practice, as a "grasp check" happens each time

Finally, I can confirm that after dwarves pickup equipment in fortress mode, they sheath it when not in combat