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0004577Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Item Improvements/Decorationspublic2011-04-26 11:022016-05-13 00:06
Cespinarve 
Toady One 
normalminorhave not tried
resolvedfixed 
MacBookOSX10.5.8
0.31.25 
0.43.03 
0004577: Rust on Glazer skill isn't removed with practice, skill can't increase past Proficient
Glazer has failed to progress as a glazer. He has been stuck as Proficient Glazer (V Rusty) for ages, despite constantly glazing statues and jugs. The Rust does not go away, now does he progress.


Glazer actually has more miller points than glazer, so he is labeled as a miller, but I have named him "Busted Glazer" to point him out.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4278 [^]
Mayday Tileset (Presumably irrelevant)
0.42.06, Save Included
related to 0004408resolved Toady One Decoration reactions never result in quality decorations 
Issue History
2011-04-26 11:02CespinarveNew Issue
2011-04-26 11:15Logical2uTag Attached: Save Included
2011-04-26 11:40QuietustNote Added: 0017527
2011-04-26 11:55QuietustNote Edited: 0017527bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0017527#r6522
2011-04-26 16:59QuietustNote Edited: 0017527bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0017527#r6523
2011-06-01 08:02ObadiahtheSlimNote Added: 0017911
2011-06-01 08:02ObadiahtheSlimNote Edited: 0017911bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0017911#r6690
2012-03-11 22:37tatterdemalianNote Added: 0021397
2012-03-12 07:24FootkerchiefSummaryGlazer never improves => Rust on Glazer skill isn't removed with practice, skill can't increase past Proficient
2012-03-18 15:53NW_KohakuNote Added: 0021564
2012-03-18 16:05NW_KohakuNote Edited: 0021564bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0021564#r8057
2012-03-19 07:10FootkerchiefNote Added: 0021598
2012-03-19 07:10FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004408
2012-03-19 14:11NW_KohakuNote Added: 0021605
2014-10-26 11:32axusNote Added: 0030739
2014-10-27 09:01FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-10-27 09:01FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed
2016-02-24 01:30Sarmatian123Note Added: 0034743
2016-02-24 01:30Sarmatian123Tag Attached: 0.42.06
2016-05-13 00:06Toady OneStatusconfirmed => resolved
2016-05-13 00:06Toady OneFixed in Version => Next Version
2016-05-13 00:06Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2016-05-13 00:06Toady OneAssigned ToFootkerchief => Toady One

Notes
(0017527)
Quietust   
2011-04-26 11:40   
(edited on: 2011-04-26 16:59)
A quick test in Adventurer mode suggests that reactions only grant experience for each [PRODUCT] and do not grant experience for [IMPROVEMENT]s - it's possible that the same is true in Fortress mode.

(0017911)
ObadiahtheSlim   
2011-06-01 08:02   
I have reproduced it in version 31.25 as well. My glazer has not progressed beyond his starting immigrant skill. I have not modded reactions nor do I use a tileset.

(0021397)
tatterdemalian   
2012-03-11 22:37   
Bug still exists in 34.05.
(0021564)
NW_Kohaku   
2012-03-18 15:53   
(edited on: 2012-03-18 16:05)
Modding around with this, the problem seems to be that the IMPROVEMENT token does not register the SKILL token at all - I had a custom reaction that used MASONRY as the skill, and even though they were Legendary +5 in MASONRY, and always make either exceptional or masterwork goods from custom reactions, they would not have any quality modifiers for IMPROVEMENT token reactions in the raws.

Furthermore, IMPROVEMENT does not respect the number of reagents being improved - only the first reagent will be improved, regardless of number.

Savefile: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5932 [^]

(0021598)
Footkerchief   
2012-03-19 07:10   
NW_Kohaku, the first part of that is 0004408.
(0021605)
NW_Kohaku   
2012-03-19 14:11   
I see, I didn't see that one on the list, and I had this hit first in the search.

These should be the same bug, then, since I think it's just that IMPROVEMENT is flat-out decoupled from SKILL tokens.
(0030739)
axus   
2014-10-26 11:32   
This is still an issue in 0.40.14! I've only recently switched to glazed earthenware, but its annoying now :D
(0034743)
Sarmatian123   
2016-02-24 01:30   
The bug still continues to live in version 42.06.