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0005418Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Tradepublic2012-02-23 13:502014-07-12 14:53
ReporterHammerDave 
Assigned ToDwarfu 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusacknowledgedResolutionopen 
PlatformWindows SDLOSOS Version
Product Version0.34.02 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0005418: Members of caravans lost on approach causes caravan to get stuck at depot with "no merchants trading"
DescriptionI have an entrance with an entry corridor followed by a ramp up to the depot.

###V_____ z2 where # is wall, V is ramp down, _ is cavern floor
___/#____ z1 where _ is floor, / is ramp up, # is wall, _ is more floor

The draft animals are through the wall on z1, merchant and 1st row of wagon are *in* the wall, row 2 of wagon is on the ramp up, row 3 of wagon is on floor.

Coincidentally there are also 2 more wagons (I think) which are overlapped behind this one.

My dwarves are able to walk past the blockage, but the caravan is just sitting there. Part of the caravan is unloaded at the depot. The depot is in "no merchants trading" status.

All of this occurred after a siege landed while the caravan was walking. The siege was beaten back but one of the guards or merchants might have been killed.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5674 [^]
Steps To Reproduce
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TagsNo tags attached.
Relationships
related to 0003622new  Floor hatches over ramps disrupt merchant pack animals 
related to 0004561new  Newly built wall freezes caravan, even after it's removed 
has duplicate 0005776resolved Footkerchief Merchant wagon with merchants & work animal pass thru a wall 
related to 0005687acknowledged Dwarfu Dwarven caravan arrives before humans leave, get "No merchants trading" entire time dwarven caravan is around 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2012-02-23 13:50HammerDaveNew Issue
2012-02-26 10:59FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0003622
2012-04-06 07:22FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005776
2012-04-06 07:23FootkerchiefNote Added: 0022122
2012-04-06 07:52DjekkeIssue Monitored: Djekke
2012-06-15 09:04FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005687
2014-01-21 18:37FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004561
2014-01-31 22:13ToadChildNote Added: 0024483
2014-01-31 22:14ToadChildIssue Monitored: ToadChild
2014-02-01 01:18FootkerchiefNote Added: 0024485
2014-02-01 10:52ToadChildNote Added: 0024486
2014-03-29 21:19DwarfuNote Added: 0024643
2014-03-29 21:19DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu
2014-03-29 21:19DwarfuStatusnew => acknowledged
2014-03-29 21:20DwarfuSummaryMerchant & part of wagon stuck *inside* a wall => Members of caravans lost on approach causes caravan to get stuck at depot with "no merchants trading"
2014-07-12 14:53greycatNote Added: 0026026

Notes
(0022122)
Footkerchief   
2012-04-06 07:23   
Related old bugs:

000869 □ [dwarf mode][trade] (Report) wagon gets stuck on wall that was under construction
000850 □ [flows] (Report) wagon pullers that stick out through the walls into magma in narrow ramped areas are burned
(0024483)
ToadChild   
2014-01-31 22:13   
I have a nearly identical issue in 0.34.11 on the Mac.

I had a dwarven caravan incoming when a siege occurred; the wagons made it down the ramp to my fort, but some of the personnel may have died on the surface. The caravan casualties seem to be a few guards (macedwarf, axedwarf, etc) but also one listed as "merchant".

A couple of wagons have already unloaded, and then I have a backup up several more that are just sitting there. The depot is stuck in "no merchants are trading" status.

Would a copy of my save file be of any use?
(0024485)
Footkerchief   
2014-02-01 01:18   
Sure. You can upload to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0024486)
ToadChild   
2014-02-01 10:52   
Save is here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8385 [^]
(0024643)
Dwarfu   
2014-03-29 21:19   
I'm not sure these are actually stuck in the wall, just that the visuals are represented by the middle wagon tile and since it hasn't made it up the ramp yet, the 'front' of the wagon with the merchant driver and animals looks like it is in the wall.

Waiting, eventually four of the wagons scuttle themselves and the last one eventually reloads and leaves after the appropriate messages.

Reloading and destroying the depot right off, all 5 wagons leave.

Loaded in 34.11 with the same results.
(0026026)
greycat   
2014-07-12 14:53   
Happening in 0.40.02 (Linux) as well. Human merchants got scared by a Weremoose. Half of them wandered a few tiles away (and stopped), and the other half stayed at the depot. Now, none of them are moving. Their goods are still sitting in the depot. I can request a trader at the depot, but I can't bring any goods (or un-bring any), or trade.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8920 [^]