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0006756Dwarf FortressAdventure Mode -- Conversationpublic2014-07-08 19:112014-10-05 03:32
sirdeimos 
Toady One 
normalcrashalways
resolvedfixed 
Windows7Service Pack 1
0.40.01 
0.40.10 
0006756: Crash when talking to mute creatures
I started a conversation with a plains titan, skipped the greeting, and asked him about his struggles. I got no response, but when I tried to continue the conversation, there were no options. When I hit any +-/* the game crashed to desktop. Save file was deleted, started a new adventurer and found the same plains titan and reproduced crash.
1) Create adventurer
2) Find titan
3) Speak to it, skip greeting
4) Say "How's life here?"
5) Press any response key
Attempted the same on a Minotaur, but it was Non-Hostile and held a normal conversation. Gossiped about my companions who had just fled. It's family was less friendly.

Save file at http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8773 [^]
adventurer mode, Conversation, crash, Save Included, titan
related to 0006524resolved Toady One Crash when talking to deity 
related to 0007106new  Talking to unconscious/mute targets lets you have a conversation with yourself 
related to 0007501new  Crash when asking fighting goblin about troubles, receiving no response, then continuing the conversation 
related to 0006529resolved Toady One Starting a conversation with no one around causes crash 
related to 0006994resolved Footkerchief Crash when bragging about killing someone to nobody in cleared site 
related to 0007462assigned Footkerchief After talking to goblin and attempting to attack, game hangs 
Issue History
2014-07-08 19:11sirdeimosNew Issue
2014-07-08 19:12sirdeimosTag Attached: adventurer mode
2014-07-08 19:13sirdeimosTag Attached: Conversation
2014-07-08 19:13sirdeimosTag Attached: titan
2014-07-08 19:13sirdeimosTag Attached: crash
2014-07-08 19:13sirdeimosIssue Monitored: sirdeimos
2014-07-08 19:29lethosorTag Attached: Save Included
2014-07-08 19:37rhoramaNote Added: 0025221
2014-07-08 20:00lethosorRelationship addedrelated to 0006524
2014-07-08 20:00lethosorNote Added: 0025226
2014-07-08 21:11Matt_SNote Added: 0025240
2014-07-09 12:51ArmokGoBNote Added: 0025368
2014-07-17 05:28MultipartiteIssue Monitored: Multipartite
2014-07-17 07:34FootkerchiefSummaryCTD - Ask a plains titan how he's doing => Crash when talking to mute creatures
2014-07-18 10:44FootkerchiefNote Added: 0026879
2014-07-18 10:44FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-07-18 10:44FootkerchiefStatusnew => needs feedback
2014-07-18 11:15XXSockXXNote Added: 0026883
2014-07-18 11:24XXSockXXNote Edited: 0026883bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0026883#r10028
2014-07-18 11:25XXSockXXIssue Monitored: XXSockXX
2014-07-18 11:30ButtonNote Added: 0026885
2014-07-19 18:05MopsyNote Added: 0026979
2014-07-19 18:09MopsyIssue Monitored: Mopsy
2014-07-19 23:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0007106
2014-07-19 23:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0007501
2014-07-19 23:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006529
2014-07-19 23:36FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006994
2014-07-20 05:30JohntheUrsidaeNote Added: 0027005
2014-07-20 09:18FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0007462
2014-07-20 16:17XXSockXXNote Added: 0027071
2014-07-24 07:33thvazNote Added: 0027409
2014-08-12 14:01MaolaginNote Added: 0028901
2014-08-12 14:15FootkerchiefStatusneeds feedback => confirmed
2014-08-18 13:26Toady OneNote Added: 0029253
2014-08-18 13:26Toady OneStatusconfirmed => resolved
2014-08-18 13:26Toady OneFixed in Version => Next Version
2014-08-18 13:26Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2014-08-18 13:26Toady OneAssigned ToFootkerchief => Toady One
2014-08-19 01:46MultipartiteIssue End Monitor: Multipartite
2014-10-05 03:32XXSockXXIssue End Monitor: XXSockXX

Notes
(0025221)
rhorama   
2014-07-08 19:37   
Sounds like duplicate of 0006524. Talking to entities who aren't there/can't talk back will produce a crash.
(0025226)
lethosor   
2014-07-08 20:00   
Most likely not a duplicate, since it sounds like there is someone to talk to.
(0025240)
Matt_S   
2014-07-08 21:11   
I had the same crash when I tried talking to a dingo. I asked it if there were any issues, and then my next response screen made it seem like I was the one being asked. But the response list was blank, and hitting enter crashed the game.

There are similar oddities if you should out but nobody answers you. I shout a greeting, then I have to reply to my own greeting, then I say goodbye, then I have to reply to my goodbye for the conversation to end.
(0025368)
ArmokGoB   
2014-07-09 12:51   
How odd. I can talk to crabs with no problems.
(0026879)
Footkerchief   
2014-07-18 10:44   
Is this still present in 0.40.03+?
(0026883)
XXSockXX   
2014-07-18 11:15   
(edited on: 2014-07-18 11:24)
Yes. I just tried to talk to a carp. Skipped greating, asked about troubles, pressed response key, crash. I'll try to find another one and make a save.

Here it is, not a carp, but a longnose gar:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9056 [^]

Talk to it, bypass greeting, ask about troubles, hit enter to respond, crash.

(0026885)
Button   
2014-07-18 11:30   
I experienced this as well in 40.03, when talking to a Giant Mole.
(0026979)
Mopsy   
2014-07-19 18:05   
A raven did it for me in 40.03. Crash after a few lines had been spoken (with no replies), nothing else going on at the time (nothing that I was aware of, at least).
(0027005)
JohntheUrsidae   
2014-07-20 05:30   
Same crash. I asked a barn owl about any troubles. Blank response, hit enter, crash
(0027071)
XXSockXX   
2014-07-20 16:17   
Still happens in 40.04, a duck this time. Earlier conversations with a raven and a weasel did work out fine though, these were classified as "Encounter", so I could just ask for cease of hostilities etc., which did not result in a crash despite the animals being unable to answer.
(0027409)
thvaz   
2014-07-24 07:33   
Couln't reproduce it in 0.40.04. Maybe there is another cause?
(0028901)
Maolagin   
2014-08-12 14:01   
I see this in 0.40.08. Tried talking to a troglodyte during an encounter, conversation progressed as follows:

Ask to stop hostilities -> no reply
Agree to stop fighting -> no reply
Ask about surroundings -> segfault crash
(0029253)
Toady One   
2014-08-18 13:26   
I've fixed the reported aspect, though if somebody has a "surroundings" crash, rather than a troubles/how's life here crash, there's probably still an issue.