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0009294Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Interface, Squad Schedulepublic2015-12-09 19:472015-12-27 16:59
PDF Urist Master 
Toady One 
highmajoralways
resolvedfixed 
0.42.02 
0.42.05 
0009294: Sparring is bugged, Sparring Reports don't show up and Dwarves don't gain skill from sparring
Sparring activity color is different from previous versions (yellow instead of cyan), Sparring doesn't doesn't generate any sparring reports and sparring doesn't cause skill increases. This leads to extremely slow training, Dwarves will often stay at the same skill level for years.
Create a squad and assign them to active/training.

Get a barracks for them to train in.
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has duplicate 0009321resolved Dwarfu Sparring results do not show up in reports screen 
has duplicate 0009531resolved Dwarfu Dorfs wont gain armor or shield skills thru training or sparring until you kickstart it with real combat. 
Issue History
2015-12-09 19:47PDF Urist MasterNew Issue
2015-12-09 21:04TalvienoNote Added: 0033705
2015-12-10 09:48TalvienoNote Added: 0033725
2015-12-10 09:51TalvienoNote Edited: 0033725bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0033725#r13583
2015-12-10 11:12HededeIssue Monitored: Hedede
2015-12-10 12:05HededeNote Added: 0033733
2015-12-10 12:12DetrosNote Added: 0033735
2015-12-10 17:07GentlefoodNote Added: 0033751
2015-12-12 19:43BenLubarIssue Monitored: BenLubar
2015-12-12 21:11TalvienoIssue Monitored: Talvieno
2015-12-13 07:20DwarfuRelationship addedparent of 0009310
2015-12-13 07:21DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu
2015-12-13 07:21DwarfuStatusnew => confirmed
2015-12-16 13:29moonshadow101Note Added: 0033961
2015-12-16 15:05DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0009321
2015-12-17 09:43moonshadow101Note Edited: 0033961bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0033961#r13697
2015-12-18 12:07SpaceDingoIssue Monitored: SpaceDingo
2015-12-18 12:07SpaceDingoIssue End Monitor: SpaceDingo
2015-12-18 12:31SpaceDingoNote Added: 0034017
2015-12-18 12:31SpaceDingoIssue Monitored: SpaceDingo
2015-12-18 12:49KonNote Added: 0034018
2015-12-18 16:46m-logikNote Added: 0034032
2015-12-19 08:54SpaceDingoNote Added: 0034048
2015-12-19 14:20DetrosNote Added: 0034057
2015-12-25 07:50newtrackernameNote Added: 0034187
2015-12-25 07:51newtrackernameNote Edited: 0034187bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034187#r13773
2015-12-25 09:08newtrackernameNote Edited: 0034187bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034187#r13777
2015-12-26 08:35braiamIssue Monitored: braiam
2015-12-27 12:31flashfireIssue Monitored: flashfire
2015-12-27 16:58Toady OneRelationship deletedparent of 0009310
2015-12-27 16:59Toady OneStatusconfirmed => resolved
2015-12-27 16:59Toady OneFixed in Version => Next Version
2015-12-27 16:59Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2015-12-27 16:59Toady OneAssigned ToDwarfu => Toady One
2015-12-28 07:19TalvienoIssue End Monitor: Talvieno
2016-01-20 05:33braiamIssue End Monitor: braiam
2016-03-07 04:54HededeIssue End Monitor: Hedede
2017-11-22 15:43DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0009531

Notes
(0033705)
Talvieno   
2015-12-09 21:04   
I've only noticed that they don't spar.
(0033725)
Talvieno   
2015-12-10 09:48   
(edited on: 2015-12-10 09:51)
After closer inspection, they [do] spar - the spar reports just don't show up anymore, as PDF said. I'm not noticing slower training, though.

(0033733)
Hedede   
2015-12-10 12:05   
For me, only *some* reports show up. It looks like sparring reports show up only for mercenaries, and not for my own dwarfs.
(0033735)
Detros   
2015-12-10 12:12   
Sounds like a job for some init file or ingame menu: "show no/some/all sparring reports".
(0033751)
Gentlefood   
2015-12-10 17:07   
Sparring doesn't show up, but I can confirm they do gain skill from it. The bug seems specific to sparring however, any other form of combat, even during sparring, shows up. (Ie: Danger Rooms)
(0033961)
moonshadow101   
2015-12-16 13:29   
(edited on: 2015-12-17 09:43)
I fairly certain that no actual sparring is occurring. In past versions, Dwarves would move around when sparring, (largely as a result of dodges and charges) as if engaged in actual combat. In 42.XX, they simply stand next to eachother. I'm quite certain that no sparring is occuring. As a result of this, not only do skills rise slowly, but there is no physical improvement whatsoever, as physical improvement is entirely the result of sparring.

Skill gains do occur as a result of other activities, particularly Individual Drills, which were buffed in 40.XX.

(0034017)
SpaceDingo   
2015-12-18 12:31   
Is this still an issue in 42.03? I have a fortress where sparring is working correctly that I can upload if needed.
(0034018)
Kon   
2015-12-18 12:49   
I get sparring messages for a Goblin Hammer Lord mercenary, but not for any of the other members of my military.
(0034032)
m-logik   
2015-12-18 16:46   
I'm still seeing this in .42.03. No reports being generated for dwarves, and they stand still instead of moving around as in previous versions. It may be of interest that dwarves reporting a 'Spar' job are not gaining observer skill either, with those that already had it going Rusty despite frequently claiming to spar. I'm also not seeing any noticeable skill gains when 'Spar' jobs are reported, though I'm not using any utility to monitor their skills.
(0034048)
SpaceDingo   
2015-12-19 08:54   
I uploaded a save to DFFD where my reports are showing up correctly. I've had the same issue across other embarks so I'm not sure what's different now but maybe it can help.
(0034057)
Detros   
2015-12-19 14:20   
SpaceDingo's uploaded file "sparring is working for me here": http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11518 [^]
(0034187)
newtrackername   
2015-12-25 07:50   
(edited on: 2015-12-25 09:08)
I have uploaded a save where sparring isn't working here: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11552 [^]

I have tried changing the Equipment Settings, changing schedule Settings and assigning a new barracks but None of it made a difference: Dwarves were still only standing next to each other without actually sparring, while their Job description read "spar". No combat reports were generated.

On the same machine and Settings, the uploaded file by SpaceDingo worked fine.

edit: I generated a pocket world fort that has this bug and uploaded the save to the above link instead. Much less chaotic than the earlier fort i uploaded :)