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0009535Dwarf FortressWorld Generation -- Generalpublic2016-02-03 14:512017-11-22 18:04
CEHA 
Dwarfu 
highmajorrandom
resolvedduplicate 
PCWindows10
0.42.05 
 
0009535: Can not to repeat exactly the map as the last time, and "Elven necromancy Towers"
Newer seen before this elf towers.
Today 3-5 tines in random map seed.
Always in this tape of good region,different number and location for the towers at same seed.
I have only 1 map.
Generate some tines.

Created in DF v0.42.05.

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:SMALL REGION]
    [SEED:OOM2EwWKMMgcgImisQg0]
    [HISTORY_SEED:Y6m6skmsewqOGEgqOk4a]
    [NAME_SEED:ym2MsyAAUO2CigosUuwe]
    [CREATURE_SEED:8WUyY4Uy28m4gkg6IE28]
    [DIM:65:65]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:1504]
    [END_YEAR:150]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:100:80]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:100:400:400:400]
    [RAINFALL:1:100:150:150]
    [TEMPERATURE:35:65:150:150]
    [DRAINAGE:1:100:150:150]
    [VOLCANISM:1:100:150:150]
    [SAVAGERY:1:100:150:150]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [POLE:NORTH_OR_SOUTH]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:100]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:4]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:9]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:3]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:22]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:11]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:11]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:11]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:11]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:22]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:11]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:11]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:5]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:66:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:66:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:264:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:528:0:0]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
    [RIVER_MINS:25:25]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:5000]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:50]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:25]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:9]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:16]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:10]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:264]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528]
    [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264]
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duplicate of 0006934acknowledged lethosor Using Seeds in World Gen does not always result in Civs behaving the same way (History Seed broken?) 
Issue History
2016-02-03 14:51CEHANew Issue
2016-02-03 15:02CEHANote Added: 0034598
2016-02-05 00:12DetrosNote Added: 0034605
2016-02-05 04:39QuietustNote Added: 0034607
2016-02-05 04:40QuietustNote Edited: 0034607bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034607#r13942
2016-02-05 04:41QuietustNote Edited: 0034607bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034607#r13943
2016-02-07 07:38CEHANote Added: 0034614
2016-03-22 12:26slinkNote Added: 0034900
2016-03-22 12:27slinkNote Added: 0034901
2016-03-22 12:27slinkNote Deleted: 0034901
2016-03-22 12:27slinkNote Edited: 0034900bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034900#r14087
2016-03-22 12:29slinkNote Edited: 0034900bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034900#r14088
2016-03-22 13:37ButtonNote Added: 0034902
2017-11-22 18:04DwarfuNote Added: 0036912
2017-11-22 18:04DwarfuRelationship addedduplicate of 0006934
2017-11-22 18:04DwarfuStatusnew => resolved
2017-11-22 18:04DwarfuResolutionopen => duplicate
2017-11-22 18:04DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu

Notes
(0034598)
CEHA   
2016-02-03 15:02   
Sorry 4 bad english.
Always when elven civilization in this tape of good region.
(0034605)
Detros   
2016-02-05 00:12   
@"Can not to repeat exactly the map as the last time": World generation is randomised, with given seed settings you just get starting world but then time passes from year 0 to your selected year and civilizations may make new cities elsewhere and have war with somebody else...
(0034607)
Quietust   
2016-02-05 04:39   
(edited on: 2016-02-05 04:41)
Detros: if you use all of the same worldgen seed values (along with all of the other worldgen parms being the same), then history during worldgen should unfold in exactly the same way, every single time - failure to do so is a bug.

(0034614)
CEHA   
2016-02-07 07:38   
Elven TOWER is bug or not ??

One more map


[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:ET 2]
    [SEED:aKo4ok2wmqKqMyw4OyoK]
    [HISTORY_SEED:uKySaiGCyWkamwIIU0Si]
    [NAME_SEED:iwKeeEyeQGas0WOys2eO]
    [CREATURE_SEED:GU6I44qqqY2OAouCM4Ie]
    [DIM:65:65]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:1504]
    [END_YEAR:150]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:2:50]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401]
    [RAINFALL:1:100:121:121]
    [TEMPERATURE:35:65:121:121]
    [DRAINAGE:1:100:121:121]
    [VOLCANISM:1:100:121:121]
    [SAVAGERY:29:100:121:121]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [POLE:NONE]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:100]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:10]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:15]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:10]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:30]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:20]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:20]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:20]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:20]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:30]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:30]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:30]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:20]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:16]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:16:64:128]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:16:64:128]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:10]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:8]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:768:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:512:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:500]
    [RIVER_MINS:100:25]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:1]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:1]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:20]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:50]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:20]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:50]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:50]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:14]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:21]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:15]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:256]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528]
    [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264]
(0034900)
slink   
2016-03-22 12:26   
(edited on: 2016-03-22 12:29)
I have seen this also with 42.06. I attempted to reproduce the exact same world as I was playing, but my founding Dwarves did not appear in the Historical Figures. I then generated it again, perhaps five minutes later, and the number of historical figures was not the same between the two newly generated worlds.

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:The Portentous Universes 0000002]
    [SEED:fd8mVaIKiAl1rt3bDEtK]
    [HISTORY_SEED:JmWfAAp4wNpcHIPsTLtY]
    [NAME_SEED:xj0hlSDR14TaoFNXF396]
    [CREATURE_SEED:ADYuACgk0QejaZAeiZfa]
    [DIM:65:65]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:3000]
    [END_YEAR:1050]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:100:200]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:202:202]
    [RAINFALL:0:100:101:101]
    [TEMPERATURE:25:75:101:101]
    [DRAINAGE:0:100:101:101]
    [VOLCANISM:0:100:101:101]
    [SAVAGERY:0:100:101:101]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [POLE:NORTH_AND_OR_SOUTH]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:300]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:0]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:0]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:0]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:0]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:0]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:0]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:0]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:22]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:11]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:11]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:3]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:66:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:66:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:264:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:528:0:0]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
    [RIVER_MINS:25:25]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:6]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:12]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:10]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:264]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528]
    [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264]

The first attempt today resulted in:

Historical Figures 4608/5561
Sites 247/336
Artifacts 455/455
Regions 61/227
Underground Regions 75/125
Civilizations and other entities 332/398
Structures 158/158
Historical Maps
The Golden Age 24471/24471

The second attempt today resulted in:

Historical Figures 4762/5553
Sites 242/323
Artifacts 503/503
Regions 68/227
Underground Regions 75/125
Civilizations and other entities 331/397
Structures 163/163
Historical Maps
The Golden Age 25007/25007

Note: by founding Dwarves, I mean 1st of their kind, not the colonists.

Note # 2, That link above was generated by Mantis, from "# 2" without the space.

(0034902)
Button   
2016-03-22 13:37   
Elven towers are sometimes a bug, sometimes not a bug. If elves build a tower, that's a bug. If elves conquer a tower, that's not a bug.
(0036912)
Dwarfu   
2017-11-22 18:04   
This is most likely the same seed problems as in 0006934. If you find it to be materially different than that report, contact a manager on the forums to reopen this with updated information detailing the difference.