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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0002225Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Militarypublic2010-06-09 04:062014-01-29 10:45
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PlatformmsOSwindowsOS Version7 (64bit)
Product Version0.31.05 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002225: Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with shield instead of axe
DescriptionOne of my dwarves with zero experience in axe using managed to kill an elephant in my current game. He did not gain axe skill, but is now a dabbling misc object user.

I recall having a squad of misc object users in my first (0.31.01?) game when creating a squad of axedwarves without appropriate skills.
Steps To ReproduceEquip untrained dwarves with battle axes and let them fight in the arena.
Tagsbattle axes, fighting, misc object user skill
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0000535acknowledgedToady One Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic 
related to 0006421resolvedFootkerchief Marksdwarves won't use archery targets until they reach novice skill 
has duplicate 0003067resolvedFootkerchief Axedwarves use shield as their primary weapon in combat 

-  Notes
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-06-09 04:43

What weapon did he use?
schlappi (reporter)
2010-06-09 04:51
edited on: 2010-06-09 05:06

He used a local produced steel battle axe.

snelg (reporter)
2010-06-09 05:24

Did you check the combat logs if he was really using the axe? Just a thought was that maybe he got a hold of something else before or during the combat. But elephants don't really have any clothes or anything he might've been able to use, right? Did he have a shield or something else? Maybe he used that instead for some reason.

I'm assuming these kinds of items would count as misc objects, if they aren't I guess you can just ignore this. :D
schlappi (reporter)
2010-06-09 05:40
edited on: 2010-06-09 05:41

He was nicely chopping away with his *steel battle axe*, sending elephant pieces everywhere ;)

schlappi (reporter)
2010-08-03 03:32

I found out on another occasion that it was the shield bashing which gave him the misc. skill. Dwarves assigned to weapons which arent available yet due to hauling jobs or else use their shield as offensive weapon, thus gaining the misc object user skill.
Rafal99 (reporter)
2010-08-03 04:32

Wasn't shield bashing training shield user skill back in 40d? Seemed more correct to me considering that shields were sometimes used offensively in real life.
Quietust (reporter)
2010-08-03 05:41

In 40d (and even back in 23a), shield bashing trained Wrestling, and dwarves seem to prefer shield bashing over punching/wrestling.

It's possible the dwarf shieldbashed the elephant to the point of knocking it over, then switched to the axe to finish it off (which wouldn't have given any Axe experience, since attacking a prone target gives no experience).

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-06-09 04:06 schlappi New Issue
2010-06-09 04:06 schlappi Tag Attached: battle axes
2010-06-09 04:06 schlappi Tag Attached: fighting
2010-06-09 04:43 Jiri Petru Note Added: 0007981
2010-06-09 04:51 schlappi Note Added: 0007982
2010-06-09 05:06 schlappi Note Edited: 0007982 View Revisions
2010-06-09 05:24 snelg Note Added: 0007983
2010-06-09 05:40 schlappi Note Added: 0007985
2010-06-09 05:41 schlappi Note Edited: 0007985 View Revisions
2010-06-09 06:53 Footkerchief Summary Axedwarf gains "misc object user" skill after combat => Dwarf with no Axe skill wields axe in combat, gets Misc Object User skill
2010-08-03 03:32 schlappi Note Added: 0011432
2010-08-03 03:33 schlappi Tag Attached: misc object user skill
2010-08-03 04:32 Rafal99 Note Added: 0011433
2010-08-03 05:41 Quietust Note Added: 0011435
2010-08-21 09:24 Footkerchief Relationship added parent of 0003067
2014-01-21 20:06 Footkerchief Summary Dwarf with no Axe skill wields axe in combat, gets Misc Object User skill => Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with a shield instead of an axe
2014-01-21 20:06 Footkerchief Summary Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with a shield instead of an axe => Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with shield instead of axe
2014-01-21 20:07 Footkerchief Relationship replaced has duplicate 0003067
2014-01-21 20:07 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2014-01-21 20:14 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000535
2014-01-29 10:45 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0006421

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