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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0003677Dwarf FortressItemspublic2010-11-19 12:442014-07-12 17:48
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PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.18 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0003677: Ammunition too large/heavy
DescriptionA single stack of 25 iron arrows/bolts weighs 29Γ, making a single arrow/bolt weigh over a kilogram. The density of iron seems to indicate that an arrow is about 150 cubic centimeters in size, which appears to match the [SIZE:150] in item_ammo.txt.

If the arrow shaft was 1cm in diameter (over 3/8 inch, even bigger than medieval arrows in real life), that would make the arrow about 191 centimeters long; assuming a more reasonable 100 centimeter length, this would put the shaft's diameter at 1.4cm, over half an inch.

There's also the fact that metal ammunition is treated as being made of solid metal - while this might be reasonable for crossbow bolts, it makes no sense whatsoever for arrows.
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- Relationships
related to 0000510new Striking with stacked ammo gives a momentum bonus but no contact area penalty 
related to 0005516resolvedToady One Absurdly Powerful Bolts/Arrows 
has duplicate 0007167resolvedDwarfu Stacks of arrows and bolts are overbearingly heavy. 

-  Notes
Quietust (reporter)
2010-11-19 12:51

Also, arrows and bolts probably shouldn't be the same size.
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-11-19 14:03

These numbers may have been fudged to get ranged damage into the right ballpark.
Pirate (reporter)
2010-11-19 14:46

It's also an issue in adventure mode. When carrying around 50 or so bolts/arrows, your adventurer is slowed down quite a bit by their weight. And 50 is not so much for a long trip (at least from my experience).

If they're heavy because of the damage they're supposed to inflict maybe they should fly faster ?
kwieland (reporter)
2012-08-27 21:42
edited on: 2012-09-11 21:05

related to 0005516?

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-11-19 12:44 Quietust New Issue
2010-11-19 12:51 Quietust Note Added: 0014025
2010-11-19 13:52 Logical2u Relationship added related to 0000510
2010-11-19 14:03 Footkerchief Note Added: 0014026
2010-11-19 14:04 Footkerchief Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2010-11-19 14:46 Pirate Note Added: 0014027
2012-08-27 15:22 hv Issue Monitored: hv
2012-08-27 21:42 kwieland Note Added: 0023497
2012-09-11 21:05 Footkerchief Note Edited: 0023497 View Revisions
2014-07-12 17:22 Dwarfu Relationship added has duplicate 0007167
2014-07-12 17:48 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005516

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