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|0000417||Dwarf Fortress||Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Equipment||public||2010-04-04 13:38||2014-07-14 11:45|
|Priority||normal||Severity||minor||Reproducibility||have not tried|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version|
|Summary||0000417: Axedwarf with missing hand wields shield and axe in same hand.|
|Description||Axedwarf who is missing her left hand (was her shield hand) now picks up and wields both axe and shield in the one remaining hand.|
I do not know what will happen in combat - can they block and swing with the same hand?
|Steps To Reproduce||- Chop off a soldier's hand, where the soldier is assigned a shield and weapon|
|Tags||Equipment, multi wield|
maybe he's just badass like that; taped an axe to his shield and runs screaming into combat.
Reading the description, I thought he'd jammed the axe handle into his bloody stump.
edited on: 2010-04-06 15:23
that's actually what I thought from the title as well.
|Actually, maybe it's not a bug. I can totally imagine how someone could hang a shield on their arm an then take an axe with the same hand. In old versions I even had healthy dwarfs do this: like, having two bucklers, an axe and a shield.|
I have this problem right now, on v31.10.
Indeed, I could imagine wearing a weapon in the hand and a buckler attached to the forearm, but I doubt it could be done with a shield.
Shield + Weapon in the same hand sound weird.
Reminder sent to: d4ftfad, OzoneGrif
It would be helpful to upload saves demonstrating this problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
|Uploaded : http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2715 [^]|
|for info, this is still present in v31.11 after testing the save.|
|Thanks, that's helpful.|
|Toady may need an up-to-date save (0.34.02+) to fix this problem. It would be helpful for someone to upload a save to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.|
|This one will be difficult to test, but I will try to notice if this situation will arise.|
edited on: 2012-03-28 05:28
Hmm. Sounds like it should be reproducible if you can organize a one handed dwarf. Lets see what happens if I embark with 6 dabbling axedwarves and a surgeon...
It's harder than it sounds to remove a dwarf's hand without removing them from this mortal coil altogether
|related to 0001000: Militia commander grabs all new weapons in the same hand.|
Khym Chanur (reporter)
|It would probably be easier to mod a game so that all dwarves have only one hand. Go into raw/objects/body_default.txt and edit [BODY:HUMANOID] to remove the tags for the left arm and left hand (or right arm and right hand).|
Noticed this in a recent reclaim. Dwarf lost the hand years ago, but is still shuffling about pretty much as effective as ever.
I think that the axe was assigned before the dwarf was injured, but he didn't get around to picking it up until after recovering from his injuries.
behold: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6417 [^]
edited on: 2014-07-14 11:46
Bug still exists as of 40.02, but it's morphed a bit. Here are my findings
In the arena, chopping off a shield arm makes it impossible to unsheath (q) my shield. It complains I need a free grasp
However, I can remove (r) the shield (or pick up (g) a shield on the ground), which allows me to hold both a sword and shield with one hand. I can then attack and block with it.
Despite that, once I give the dwarf back to the AI it appears they auto-sheath if there are no enemies. Then if I attack that same dwarf - the one with a missing hand - they can unsheath the sword but not the shield.
I'd conclude that so long as sheathing/unsheathing is a regular mechanism that all NPCs use, I'd assume people will rarely encounter this bug in practice, as a "grasp check" happens each time
Finally, I can confirm that after dwarves pickup equipment in fortress mode, they sheath it when not in combat
|2010-04-04 13:38||d4ftfad||New Issue|
|2010-04-04 16:54||Qloos||Tag Attached: Equipment|
|2010-04-04 16:54||Qloos||Tag Attached: multi wield|
|2010-04-06 10:01||Footkerchief||Relationship added||child of 0000535|
|2010-04-06 12:43||Footkerchief||Sticky Issue||No => Yes|
|2010-04-06 12:45||Footkerchief||Sticky Issue||Yes => No|
|2010-04-06 14:15||bowdown2q||Note Added: 0001579|
|2010-04-06 15:17||DoctorZuber||Note Added: 0001601|
|2010-04-06 15:23||DoctorZuber||Note Edited: 0001601||View Revisions|
|2010-04-07 08:49||Zas||Note Added: 0001752|
|2010-07-17 01:21||OzoneGrif||Note Added: 0010482|
|2010-07-17 09:11||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0010497|
|2010-07-17 09:12||Footkerchief||Note Deleted: 0010497|
|2010-07-17 09:12||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: OzoneGrif|
|2010-07-17 09:12||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0010498|
|2010-07-17 10:16||OzoneGrif||Note Added: 0010499|
|2010-07-24 05:34||OzoneGrif||Note Added: 0010903|
|2010-07-24 08:36||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0010912|
|2010-12-01 01:15||rampagingpoet||Issue Monitored: rampagingpoet|
|2012-03-20 19:48||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0021628|
|2012-03-26 09:26||thvaz||Issue Monitored: thvaz|
|2012-03-26 09:27||thvaz||Note Added: 0021743|
|2012-03-26 09:27||thvaz||Issue End Monitor: thvaz|
|2012-03-26 09:27||thvaz||Issue Monitored: thvaz|
|2012-03-28 03:55||kaypy||Note Added: 0021819|
|2012-03-28 05:28||kaypy||Note Edited: 0021819||View Revisions|
|2012-06-02 03:35||Kogut||Note Added: 0022810|
|2012-06-02 14:10||Khym Chanur||Note Added: 0022813|
|2012-06-03 02:13||caldfir||Note Added: 0022818|
|2014-07-14 11:45||SirPenguin||Note Added: 0026345|
|2014-07-14 11:46||SirPenguin||Note Edited: 0026345||View Revisions|
|2018-04-13 13:03||Huntthetroll||Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll|
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