0004326: Some 'Giant' creatures aren't very big at all.

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0004326

Dwarf Fortress

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2011-03-25 02:37

2011-03-25 05:52

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Neoskel

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Toady One

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normal

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minor

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N/A

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resolved

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fixed

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0.31.22

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0.31.23

Summary

0004326: Some 'Giant' creatures aren't very big at all.

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So if i'm not wrong, [CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC:1000] should increase the size of the creature by 10000%, thus 10 times the original size. This makes the giant platypus and giant penguin max size 20000 and 40000 respectively. These are both smaller than a dwarf (max size 60000), in fact the Giant Platypus is the size of a kobold. A far cry from "A huge monster".

The other new giant critters (Panda, Capybara, Badger and Moose) are all fairly large (max sizes 650000, 450000, 150000 and 2625000 respectively.) The Gigantic Panda is bigger than a Cow, the Giant Capybara is between a Mule and Horse in size, the Giant Badger is bigger than a Reindeer and the Giant Moose is somewhat smaller than a Rhinoceros. These seem alright, but still may not be as intended.

I pitted the different giant critters against a dwarf in the testing arena and the dwarf easily killed the giant platypus and penguin but was easily killed by everything else.

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Look in the Raws and do a little math. Pit the critters against dwarves in testing arena.

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(0016561) Toady One (administrator) 2011-03-25 03:05	I'm aware of this, but we haven't settled on a coherent system there yet. They can either all be the same size, say, which is the weirdest ecosystem-wise, or they can be uniformly amplified, which leaves some small giants, or any mix. The use of the word "huge" in some of the descriptions is misleading though.

(0016564) thvaz (reporter) 2011-03-25 05:41	There is a problem in this regard related to forgotten beasts. I never know how big a FB is. A giant ant can be anything the size of a small dog or the size of a mountain, for instance.

(0016566) Toady One (administrator) 2011-03-25 05:52	I'm going to go with (8x + 200000^2/(x+200000))*100/x %, so the giant creatures will start out as grizzly bear sized vermin and plateau at being roughly doubled in all dimensions for the larger beasts. Yeah, it doesn't communicate size very well in the descriptions, in general.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-03-25 02:37	Neoskel	New Issue
2011-03-25 03:05	Toady One	Note Added: 0016561
2011-03-25 03:05	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2011-03-25 03:05	Toady One	Status	new => acknowledged
2011-03-25 05:41	thvaz	Note Added: 0016564
2011-03-25 05:52	Toady One	Note Added: 0016566
2011-03-25 05:52	Toady One	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2011-03-25 05:52	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.Upcoming
2011-03-25 05:52	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed