0004831: Weapon attachments do not respect changes to military position (forbidden due to stuck-in)

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0004831

Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Mode -- Interface, Military Screen

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2011-08-16 00:03

2011-08-16 17:47

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vasiln

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Dwarfu

Priority

normal

Severity

minor

Reproducibility

always

Status

resolved

Resolution

duplicate

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0.31.25

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Summary

0004831: Weapon attachments do not respect changes to military position (forbidden due to stuck-in)

Description

Currently, specific weapons are assigned to military dwarves based on their numerical position in a squad. Some dwarves get attached to their weapons. When you remove a dwarf from his or her military position, the attached weapon remains attached to the specific dwarf (well, all that means currently, I believe, is that it is forbidden), yet the specific weapon will be assigned to the dwarf that replaces the attached dwarf. The weapon cannot even be assigned to the replaced dwarf in the new position, as it is currently forbidden by attachment mechanics.

This means that in the (fairly predictable) event of promotion to militia captain, the replacement will not pick up a weapon until the new militia captain dies (actually, not even then, because of the way the current mechanics work.)

This leads to special problems when the weapon in question is an artifact, as such a weapon will not show itself as forbidden when viewed (although you can see forbid/claim text, making the hidden attachment status pointless as long as you know what to look for.)

The work around for this problem is fairly trivial: find the specific weapon and unforbid it. The problem is that this work around is only apparent to advanced players, and it requires recognizing the problem to begin with (otherwise you'll just wonder why your dwarf isn't picking up a weapon, if you even notice that he or she is unarmed).

Steps To Reproduce

1) Make a military dwarf, assign him or her a weapon

2) Wait until he or she grows attached to that weapon

3) Remove the dwarf from his squad and replace him or her. The replacement will never pick up a weapon.

Additional Information

Attachment mechanics have sure caused a lot of headaches. I can understand-- it's a difficult problem to solve.

Tags

attachment, weapon

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0001664

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Toady One

Weapons stuck in an enemy's corpse become auto-forbidden even if a dwarf is still wielding the weapon

Notes
(0018530) Quietust (reporter) 2011-08-16 05:56	The weapon didn't get forbidden due to attachment - it got forbidden because it got stuck inside an opponent during combat (0001664).

(0018541) vasiln (reporter) 2011-08-16 14:51	Pardon me-- you're correct, the weapon had been a stuck-in at one point.

(0018543) Dwarfu (manager) 2011-08-16 17:46	Since the greater part of your discussion/situation was that the weapon was forbidden, please continue discussion under 0001664.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-08-16 00:03	vasiln	New Issue
2011-08-16 01:28	vasiln	Tag Attached: weapon
2011-08-16 01:28	vasiln	Tag Attached: attachment
2011-08-16 05:56	Quietust	Note Added: 0018530
2011-08-16 14:51	vasiln	Note Added: 0018541
2011-08-16 17:46	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0018543
2011-08-16 17:46	Dwarfu	Relationship added	duplicate of 0001664
2011-08-16 17:46	Dwarfu	Status	new => resolved
2011-08-16 17:46	Dwarfu	Resolution	open => duplicate
2011-08-16 17:46	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2011-08-16 17:47	Dwarfu	Summary	Weapon attachments do not respect changes to military position => Weapon attachments do not respect changes to military position (forbidden due to stuck-in)