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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000532Dwarf FortressCombat -- Generalpublic2010-04-05 15:332014-07-21 16:29
ReporterHuggz 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilitysometimes
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.40.01 
Summary0000532: The fighter skill appears to have a negative affect.
DescriptionWhen tesed in the arena, as detailed in this thread:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=53022.0;topicseen [^]

The fighter skill appears to have either a negative affect or such a small positive affect that even at grandmaster level the results of testing show a negative effect due to randomness.

It could be because the Fighter skill enables a more inefficient combat technique and is therefore unbalanced, or that it is simply broken. Either way it doesnt seem to be working as intended.
Steps To ReproduceArena testing of any identical creatures/groups, with one having the Fighter skill and one not having it, will usually end up with the non-fighters the victor.
Tagsbalance, combat, fighter
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0000033resolvedToady One Bronze colossus, skeletal creatures, fleshballs, and others are impossible to kill 

-  Notes
(0016949)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-04-01 12:59

 Reminder sent to: Huggz

Does this still hold true in 0.31.25? It would be helpful if you redid your tests.
(0019094)
Logical2u (manager)
2011-12-09 14:12

 Resolving as unable to reproduce without further updates.
(0024796)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-06-02 19:00

 Reopening due to recent corroboration at 0003778:0024660.
(0026946)
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-19 08:07
edited on: 2014-07-19 08:25

 Did various tests in the arena with the following configurations:

Group 1 -12 Human, Talented spearman,Grandmaster Fighter,Skilled Shield and Dogde, no armor, shield and spear.
Group 2-12 Human, Talented spearman,no skill in Fighter,Skilled Shield and Dogde, no armor, shield and spear.

I tested five battles, in all of them group Group 1 won with about half of the fighters remaining. I think Fighter now has a positive influence.

The combat system changed in 0.40.01, so maybe it was fixed?
(0027161)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-21 16:29

 Thanks for testing!

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-05 15:33 Huggz New Issue
2010-04-05 15:57 Qloos Tag Attached: balance
2010-04-05 15:57 Qloos Tag Attached: fighter
2010-04-08 11:50 Huggz Tag Attached: combat
2011-04-01 12:59 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0000033
2011-04-01 12:59 Footkerchief Note Added: 0016949
2011-04-01 12:59 Footkerchief Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-12-09 14:12 Logical2u Note Added: 0019094
2011-12-09 14:12 Logical2u Status new => resolved
2011-12-09 14:12 Logical2u Resolution open => unable to reproduce
2011-12-09 14:12 Logical2u Assigned To => Logical2u
2011-12-09 14:12 Logical2u Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2014-06-02 19:00 Footkerchief Assigned To Logical2u => Footkerchief
2014-06-02 19:00 Footkerchief Status resolved => acknowledged
2014-06-02 19:00 Footkerchief Note Added: 0024796
2014-07-19 08:07 thvaz Note Added: 0026946
2014-07-19 08:25 thvaz Note Edited: 0026946 View Revisions
2014-07-21 16:29 Footkerchief Note Added: 0027161
2014-07-21 16:29 Footkerchief Status acknowledged => resolved
2014-07-21 16:29 Footkerchief Fixed in Version => 0.40.01
2014-07-21 16:29 Footkerchief Resolution unable to reproduce => fixed
2014-07-21 16:29 Footkerchief Assigned To Footkerchief => Toady One

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