0005633: TITLE Changes Large Region History, Also Something Else Unknown

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0005633

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2012-03-13 11:39

2013-09-30 12:32

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slink

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minor

Reproducibility

have not tried

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new

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0.34.05

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Summary

0005633: TITLE Changes Large Region History, Also Something Else Unknown

Description

I have a large region world generated in 34.05 which I like. It was generated randomly using the standard LARGE REGION paramter set. I exported the generation parameters and tried to reproduce it, and I have failed.

Existing world:

   130963 Dwarves
   66407 Humans
   141128 Elves
   156821 Goblins
   2441 Kobolds

   Total: 497760

With title PLANE OF SOULS:

   151251 Dwarves
   76379 Humans
   143451 Elves
   236856 Goblins
   2301 Kobolds

   Total: 610238

Two runs of the above generated identical worlds.

With title LARGE REGION, exactly as exported:

   142325 Dwarves
   63612 Humans
   141294 Elves
   202481 Goblins
   2355 Kobolds

   Total: 552067

This is not the same as the original, nor as the one entitled PLANE OF SOULS.

I tried generating a pocket world and reproducing it with the title changed, and that worked. The region size seems to be a factor.

Steps To Reproduce

If you want to try your luck, here is the parameter set.

Created in DF v0.34.05.

[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:LARGE REGION]
   [SEED:iyeAcSaQm4qm08G8yusa]
   [HISTORY_SEED:ikEOemWC2mUGsoCk6yoY]
   [NAME_SEED:Sk2kk6yM2keKgK2ikKem]
   [CREATURE_SEED:MAacEO2KGqCcEYi08oss]
   [DIM:257:257]
   [EMBARK_POINTS:1274]
   [END_YEAR:1050]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:300:80]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:1]
   [ELEVATION:1:400:800:800]
   [RAINFALL:0:100:400:400]
   [TEMPERATURE:25:75:400:400]
   [DRAINAGE:0:100:400:400]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:400:400]
   [SAVAGERY:0:100:400:400]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [MINERAL_SCARCITY:2500]
   [MEGABEAST_CAP:75]
   [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:150]
   [TITAN_NUMBER:33]
   [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
   [DEMON_NUMBER:52]
   [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:26]
   [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:26]
   [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:26]
   [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:26]
   [SECRET_NUMBER:52]
   [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:52]
   [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:52]
   [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:26]
   [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:26]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:100:1000:2000]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:100:1000:2000]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:50]
   [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:2]
   [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:15]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:1032:7:6]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:1032:7:6]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:4128:13:12]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:8256:9:9]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:8256:7:6]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:8256:13:12]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:8256:13:12]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
   [RIVER_MINS:400:400]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
   [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
   [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
   [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:100]
   [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:200]
   [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:40]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
   [SITE_CAP:1500]
   [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
   [ELEVATION_RANGES:8256:16512:8256]
   [RAIN_RANGES:8256:16512:8256]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:8256:16512:8256]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:8256:16512:8256]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:8256:16512:8256]

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Notes
(0021458) slink (reporter) 2012-03-14 05:49 edited on: 2012-03-14 05:49	This morning I tried generating a completely new large region, this one with zero vampires and full history (no culling). Although the history file appeared normal, when I went to look at the world in legends mode only a little over one hundred of the historical figures were listed, and nothing in other catagories. I did not try to play in that world so I don't know if I would have got every migrant listed as having zero relatives. I can do so if the experiment is useful. When I went to look at the world definitions I saw that large region is the only one that has culling historical figures on by default. I am guessing that the problems with large regions is a known one.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-03-13 11:39	slink	New Issue
2012-03-14 05:49	slink	Note Added: 0021458
2012-03-14 05:49	slink	Note Edited: 0021458	View Revisions
2013-09-30 12:32	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006379