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|0000094||Dwarf Fortress||Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcare||public||2010-04-01 22:11||2022-10-10 05:42|
|Assigned To||Toady One|
|Priority||high||Severity||minor||Reproducibility||have not tried|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version|
|Summary||0000094: Injured dwarves not recovered, ignored by doctors, and/or don't get food/water|
|Description||A dwarf has no visible injuries outside, but is unconscious almost permanently and the "Diagnosis requested" shows up on the dwarf's profile. The chief medical dwarf routinely ignores him, even doing no job instead of at least bringing the dwarf to a bed.|
|Tags||healthcare, save game|
|Try setting a hospital zone 'over' the dwarf in question. I've seen a wounded dwarf being brought to the hospital inside with beds only after I declared him to be in a hospital zone.|
Toady One (administrator)
|The feeding/watering part of this should be fixed for 0.31.07, but the general ignoring of the dwarf will require a save or more information.|
edited on: 2010-06-20 11:14
I believe I have a save illustrating the problem as originally reported. The dwarf took part in a fight against a forgotten beast and was somehow knocked unconscious although he has no other injuries reported. The other dwarfs left him where he lay. Eventually I tried to wake him up by collapsing him down a level but to no avail. He does not wake up and he is completely ignored.
Here is the save, pardon my bloated fortress: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2540 [^]
EDIT: I'd like to report that with 31.08, the other dwarfs did indeed begin feeding and watering the unconscious dwarf... so that he could survive long enough to go insane from depression. He'd been ecstatic when he was knocked unconscious, but eventually the strain of lying there having no injuries and not recovering proved too much for him. He was never moved to a hospital, and his action remained stuck on Go To Indiv Combat Drill. RIP.
edited on: 2010-08-07 10:32
Had three dwarves injured in combat. They cancelled rest when first injured because enemies were nearby. Now they're lying there on the ground unable to move (faint, missing legs, etc.) and they're being ignored. Two have diagnostic requests, the third has apparently accepted his fate. I did have a problem at the same time with the chief medical dwarf getting reassigned to a non-doctor. After setting it back, the chief medical dwarf has all other labors turned off and is showing No Job. I'll get a save uploaded showing this tomorrow.
Edit: After reloading my save, they eventually went and hauled them to a hospital.. but one dwarf never did get a diagnostic due to him failing to rest when first injured.
edited on: 2010-09-07 22:48
Version - 31.12.
Had 3 dwarwes injured. Two - due to training in "danger room" barracks, and one - beaten by law enforcer.
All three NEVER move an inch from the very moment they was injured. Later, two of them died because of infection and the last one was lying in "danger room" for two or tree years, while constantly being attacked by "training spear", but - thanks to his clothes - all attacks glanced away. For now, he have two INHIBITED(bright yellow) wounds and no one wants to drag him to hospital or at least diagnose him on sight.
I suppose he has some kind of brain trauma, but i cant even see that, because he still need diagnosis.
Oh! And he recieves water and food regularly and actually "was happy recently" about that. :-D
EDIT: here is the save http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3079 [^]
Sorry for necroing this, but think I've found a workaround.
Problem as already mentioned. Dwarf whit minor injuries, who keeps flashing the "passed out" and never gets taken to the hospital for treatment. ( he did get food/water )
Tried the usual trix to try and wake him up, but no luck.
However, building a cagetrap on his tile generated : Urist cancels Rest: Caged.
I then constructed the cage at my hospital, and as soon as he was free, he was properly put to bed and treated
|Wow. that is a clever workaround Naia.|
edited on: 2012-03-05 08:51
0.31.25 saves from 0004830:
Thirsty patients: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4836 [^]
Dehydrated patients: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4837 [^]
|A workaround that worked for me was to set an alert with the injured dwarves outside the required burrow. This somehow allowed them to crawl their way into the hospital on their own.|
|similar bugfix. based in Naia workaround http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9129 [^]|
v0.40.10: After a minecart riding mishap, an unconscious woodcutter was left outside the fortress walls. No "Recover Wounded" job was generated, and the hospital staff eventually end up treating the dwarf where he lies.
Toady One (administrator)
"The issue with this particular rest job was that the dwarf went unconscious before arriving at their destination, and another part of the code caused the ko to never end because there was a rest job, regardless of whether or not the dwarf got to their rest goal. It could also happen with injured dwarves with sleep jobs, though those at least would still terminate when drowsiness was gone. This is probably the source of a good number of the rest errors, and I've tried to patch broken jobs out of old saves (worked on this one, anyway).
Dwarves that are dropped while being carried can bug out in a similar way, and I haven't dealt with that yet."
I'll still be testing some saves from here to see what other issues there are. Rest jobs broken in the way described above prevent bed-carries, as well as feeding.
v0.40.13: Another minecart riding mishap. An unconscious herbalist was left where he landed; no "Recover Wounded" job was generated. After a couple days of rest the herbalist recovers sufficiently to hobble himself to the hospital.
edited on: 2014-10-26 20:40
Two of my dwarves are on traction benches getting diagnosed over and over again but never done anything further than that on. They both have hundreds of "diagnosed by X" in their medical page but their bones are not being "tractioned".
Edit: After a hundreds (or thousands?) of diagnoses the injury seems to have healed itself and they're both back up and running.
"Two of my dwarves are on traction benches getting diagnosed over and over again but never done anything further than that on. "
Sounds like my medical history. :/
Reminder sent to: Orkel, ptb_ptb
Here's the save - you can see 1-2 dwarves in the hospital getting constantly diagnosed.
I was referring to my RL medical history. Sorry for the confusion.
I can confirm Orkel's problem for 40.14 with constant diagnoses, but I should note that it has nothing to do with this bug report, since injured dwarves are seen by doctors, get food and water, and are recovered. Maybe the bug was introduced when Toady added the traction bench check to release dwarves from traction? In this case, dwarves are still injured while in traction.
My saved game demonstrating the problem:
edited on: 2015-03-29 19:51
A dwarf was injured unintentionally testing a pit trap. After a wall was deconstructed, the dwarf just sat there performing "rest"; no recover wounded job was generated. Eventually, the dwarf recovers sufficiently to walk to the hospital for treatment.
Toady One (administrator)
|I tested the 0.40.24 save and the dwarf went immediately to the hospital, so it's possible some of the issues have been fixed in the upcoming 0.43.04 release (where the code analyzer found an issue with the rest/medical code). I'm not sure there aren't other issues though, so we should probably just keep an eye on this one after the next release.|
edited on: 2018-01-02 05:59
This save was primarily for the stuttering bug ticket, but there are two wounded dwarves not getting attention so I'll post it here too. One is a child in the hospital stuck with "Play" job (he was stuck in a traction bench before, getting spam-evaluated by doctors yet receiving no treatment, before I deconstructed the TB, then he just got stuck with "Play"). Another is a baby being held by one of the soldiers, with several arrow wounds.
4 dwarves were "Rest"ing in the hospital, not getting any attention from doctors. Some were "Requires diagnosis", some were already diagnosed but the treating was not continued by the doctors.
So I unbuilt the beds from under them, and then rebuilt the beds, now they're just there with "No Job" and still not getting diagnosed/healed.
Just happened in my playthrough (0.47.05, PyLNP): Clean Patient job got cancelled. I wanted another doctor to do that job, so I temporary military-mobilized the dwarf that it was assigned to. I didn't go as planned though: now the injured dwarf is lying in the hospital, its health status is showing "needs cleaning", but the old cleaning job has disappeared and new one isn't getting generated.
Logically, I would expect the game to re-create the job ASAP for something as time-critical as healthcare. If it doesn't reliably re-create medical jobs if th old one's gone, then it could be responsible for many problems with injuries getting ignored. After all, in a large fort with a lot going on, there could be a number of reasons why a specific dwarf may drop a job, due to some user action, burrows/accessibility, "interrupted by ..." or whatever.
|2010-04-01 22:11||rss||New Issue|
|2010-04-02 06:41||Todestool||Tag Attached: healthcare|
|2010-04-07 07:32||Justice||Issue Monitored: Justice|
|2010-04-21 12:23||Footkerchief||Relationship added||child of 0000351|
|2010-04-27 19:49||Egregius||Note Added: 0005453|
|2010-04-28 14:01||Footkerchief||Category||General => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcare|
|2010-06-11 16:26||paladin_of_light||Tag Attached: unconcious|
|2010-06-11 16:26||paladin_of_light||Tag Detached: unconcious|
|2010-06-15 01:19||Toady One||Relationship replaced||related to 0000351|
|2010-06-15 01:20||Toady One||Note Added: 0008467|
|2010-06-15 01:20||Toady One||Assigned To||=> Toady One|
|2010-06-15 01:20||Toady One||Status||new => acknowledged|
|2010-06-15 01:27||Toady One||Relationship added||related to 0001582|
|2010-06-18 22:18||yeesh||Issue Monitored: yeesh|
|2010-06-18 22:19||yeesh||Issue End Monitor: yeesh|
|2010-06-18 22:36||yeesh||Note Added: 0008662|
|2010-06-18 22:40||yeesh||Note Edited: 0008662||View Revisions|
|2010-06-18 22:41||yeesh||Tag Attached: save game|
|2010-06-20 11:14||yeesh||Note Edited: 0008662||View Revisions|
|2010-06-23 22:32||Footkerchief||Relationship added||parent of 0002453|
|2010-06-30 17:28||Khym Chanur||Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur|
|2010-07-16 11:20||Footkerchief||Relationship added||parent of 0002684|
|2010-08-05 00:32||ra2phoenix||Issue Monitored: ra2phoenix|
|2010-08-05 00:34||ra2phoenix||Note Added: 0011515|
|2010-08-07 10:32||ra2phoenix||Note Edited: 0011515||View Revisions|
|2010-08-10 10:03||theqmann||Issue Monitored: theqmann|
|2010-09-05 23:37||kuketski||Note Added: 0012439|
|2010-09-05 23:39||kuketski||Note Edited: 0012439||View Revisions|
|2010-09-07 22:48||kuketski||Note Edited: 0012439||View Revisions|
|2010-12-10 10:32||Naia||Note Added: 0014502|
|2011-03-04 23:10||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0002448|
|2011-03-04 23:11||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0000681|
|2011-03-04 23:11||Footkerchief||Summary||Dwarves ignore dwarf outside in coma => Dwarves won't bring unconscious injured dwarf to a bed|
|2011-03-04 23:11||Footkerchief||Sticky Issue||No => Yes|
|2011-04-14 07:43||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0004518|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0001167|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: Footkerchief|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: Cakeonslaught|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: Creidieki|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: kwieland|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: brainspank|
|2011-04-14 12:59||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0000770|
|2011-04-14 13:03||kwieland||Note Added: 0017369|
|2011-07-28 10:00||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0004772|
|2012-03-05 08:39||Footkerchief||Relationship replaced||has duplicate 0002453|
|2012-03-05 08:40||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0000703|
|2012-03-05 08:49||Footkerchief||Summary||Dwarves won't bring unconscious injured dwarf to a bed => Injured dwarves don't receive medical attention or food/water|
|2012-03-05 08:50||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0004830|
|2012-03-05 08:51||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0021123|
|2012-03-05 08:51||Footkerchief||Note Edited: 0021123||View Revisions|
|2012-03-05 08:52||Footkerchief||Summary||Injured dwarves don't receive medical attention or food/water => Injured dwarves not recovered, ignored by doctors, and/or don't get food/water|
|2012-03-05 08:53||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0004850|
|2012-03-05 08:55||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0005544|
|2012-03-05 08:56||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0001842|
|2012-03-05 09:04||Footkerchief||Relationship deleted||related to 0000351|
|2012-03-05 09:04||Footkerchief||Relationship replaced||related to 0002684|
|2012-03-05 09:07||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0002905|
|2012-03-05 09:08||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0003403|
|2012-03-05 09:08||Footkerchief||Relationship deleted||related to 0003403|
|2012-03-13 11:49||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0005628|
|2012-03-18 23:51||kento||Issue Monitored: kento|
|2012-04-11 11:59||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0001410|
|2012-06-11 13:49||Footkerchief||Relationship added||has duplicate 0005928|
|2014-01-27 10:50||Footkerchief||Relationship deleted||related to 0000770|
|2014-01-27 11:35||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0003212|
|2014-01-27 11:35||Footkerchief||Relationship deleted||related to 0003212|
|2014-01-27 13:06||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0001260|
|2014-07-01 01:03||qoph||Note Added: 0024856|
|2014-07-21 21:49||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0007503|
|2014-07-23 18:02||Aisher||Note Added: 0027368|
|2014-08-09 11:03||Dwarfu||Status||acknowledged => confirmed|
|2014-08-21 06:55||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0008100|
|2014-09-01 14:12||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0008214|
|2014-09-02 07:38||Loci||Note Added: 0029890|
|2014-09-02 13:00||4maskwolf||Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf|
|2014-09-04 14:59||Toady One||Note Added: 0029943|
|2014-09-13 09:49||Footkerchief||Relationship added||related to 0008025|
|2014-09-27 12:03||Loci||Note Added: 0030405|
|2014-10-26 19:37||Orkel||Note Added: 0030748|
|2014-10-26 20:40||Orkel||Note Edited: 0030748||View Revisions|
|2014-10-27 04:20||ptb_ptb||Note Added: 0030751|
|2014-10-27 09:04||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: Orkel|
|2014-10-27 09:04||Footkerchief||Issue Monitored: ptb_ptb|
|2014-10-27 09:04||Footkerchief||Note Added: 0030752|
|2014-10-27 18:48||Orkel||Note Added: 0030762|
|2014-10-30 12:24||ptb_ptb||Note Added: 0030804|
|2014-11-03 17:32||Calathar||Note Added: 0030859|
|2014-12-01 03:19||ptb_ptb||Issue End Monitor: ptb_ptb|
|2015-03-29 18:39||Loci||Note Added: 0032460|
|2015-03-29 19:25||Afghani84||Issue Monitored: Afghani84|
|2015-03-29 19:51||Loci||Note Edited: 0032460||View Revisions|
|2016-05-17 15:34||Dwarfu||Relationship added||has duplicate 0009765|
|2016-06-07 13:09||Toady One||Note Added: 0035365|
|2016-06-07 14:22||Dwarfu||Issue Monitored: Dwarfu|
|2017-05-03 09:03||Loci||Relationship added||parent of 0008374|
|2018-01-02 05:57||Orkel||Note Added: 0037473|
|2018-01-02 05:59||Orkel||Note Edited: 0037473||View Revisions|
|2018-01-02 05:59||Orkel||Note Edited: 0037473||View Revisions|
|2018-01-03 09:57||Huntthetroll||Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll|
|2018-02-05 11:15||Orkel||Note Added: 0037758|
|2022-10-10 05:42||Alex321||Note Added: 0041339|
|2022-10-10 05:45||Alex321||Issue Monitored: Alex321|
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