0009797: Can't cut trees with stone axes - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

(0035295)
Shonai_Dweller (reporter)
2016-05-24 23:45

Are you playing an animal man?
Some other people have noticed 'you need an axe' messages while playing animal-men despite holding an axe in their hand.

I've cut many trees with a stone axe, but have only been playing dwarves and humans.

(0035296)
vipersting (reporter)
2016-05-24 23:55

Nope, tested it with a dwarf and a human adventurer.
It worked for me in 0.43.02

(0035297)
Shonai_Dweller (reporter)
2016-05-25 05:43

Yep, you're right. Stone axes seem to have stopped working in 42.03.

(0035298)
chaosvolt (reporter)
2016-05-25 09:05

I'm assuming that it's either related to the fixed http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=712 [^] (depending on HOW it was fixed), or to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9738 [^] (if changes to woodcutting in fortress mode retroactively fucked up doing so in adventure mode).

(0035300)
Dwarfu (manager)
2016-05-25 15:17

Possibly related to stones' sharpness/MAX_EDGE.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158366.0 [^]

(0035320)
chaosvolt (reporter)
2016-05-28 10:57

Can anyone confirm that it is in fact the changes excluding training axes from being used to cut wood? If so, can it be confirmed that material MAX_EDGE is indeed the cause.

If so, would simply checking for the TRAINING weapon token be easier for Toady to implement in that "no training axes" check? Assuming there aren't any saner solutions he could use.

(0035324)
vipersting (reporter)
2016-05-28 17:56
edited on: 2016-05-28 18:06

Changing the [MAX_EDGE] value won't solve the bug.

I tested this by changing the value in the STONE_TEMPLATE from 1000 to 1000000, adding a material [MAX_EDGE] in a specific stone won't help either

EDIT: I'm not an expert at modding though. It would be helpful if someone else check this

(0035327)
chaosvolt (reporter)
2016-05-28 21:56

Ah, so that eliminates one potential cause.

(0035337)
chaosvolt (reporter)
2016-05-29 23:57

I did some quick testing. First I tried modding in a reaction to produce a metal version of these stone axes. It did not allow woodcutting. Then I modded up a genuine WEAPON version which equivalent properties to the tool version. Both stone and metal versions of this weapon worked.

So it seems that yes, the stone axe being of item type "TOOL" is the apparent cause here. Adding that to my advance list of things to change in my mod for the time being. :V

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2016-05-24 23:20	vipersting	New Issue
2016-05-24 23:45	Shonai_Dweller	Note Added: 0035295
2016-05-24 23:55	vipersting	Note Added: 0035296
2016-05-25 05:43	Shonai_Dweller	Note Added: 0035297
2016-05-25 09:05	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0035298
2016-05-25 09:06	chaosvolt	Issue Monitored: chaosvolt
2016-05-25 15:17	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0035300
2016-05-25 15:17	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2016-05-25 15:17	Dwarfu	Status	new => confirmed
2016-05-25 15:39	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0035302
2016-05-28 10:57	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0035320
2016-05-28 17:56	vipersting	Note Added: 0035324
2016-05-28 18:06	vipersting	Note Edited: 0035324	View Revisions
2016-05-28 21:56	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0035327
2016-05-29 23:57	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0035337
2016-05-30 10:59	chaosvolt	Note Deleted: 0035302
2016-06-04 14:10	Toady One	Status	confirmed => resolved
2016-06-04 14:10	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2016-06-04 14:10	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2016-06-04 14:10	Toady One	Assigned To	Dwarfu => Toady One
2016-06-04 22:04	chaosvolt	Issue End Monitor: chaosvolt

Notes
(0035295) Shonai_Dweller (reporter) 2016-05-24 23:45	Are you playing an animal man? Some other people have noticed 'you need an axe' messages while playing animal-men despite holding an axe in their hand. I've cut many trees with a stone axe, but have only been playing dwarves and humans.

(0035296) vipersting (reporter) 2016-05-24 23:55	Nope, tested it with a dwarf and a human adventurer. It worked for me in 0.43.02

(0035297) Shonai_Dweller (reporter) 2016-05-25 05:43	Yep, you're right. Stone axes seem to have stopped working in 42.03.

(0035298) chaosvolt (reporter) 2016-05-25 09:05	I'm assuming that it's either related to the fixed http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=712 [^] (depending on HOW it was fixed), or to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9738 [^] (if changes to woodcutting in fortress mode retroactively fucked up doing so in adventure mode).

(0035300) Dwarfu (manager) 2016-05-25 15:17	Possibly related to stones' sharpness/MAX_EDGE. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158366.0 [^]

(0035320) chaosvolt (reporter) 2016-05-28 10:57	Can anyone confirm that it is in fact the changes excluding training axes from being used to cut wood? If so, can it be confirmed that material MAX_EDGE is indeed the cause. If so, would simply checking for the TRAINING weapon token be easier for Toady to implement in that "no training axes" check? Assuming there aren't any saner solutions he could use.

(0035324) vipersting (reporter) 2016-05-28 17:56 edited on: 2016-05-28 18:06	Changing the [MAX_EDGE] value won't solve the bug. I tested this by changing the value in the STONE_TEMPLATE from 1000 to 1000000, adding a material [MAX_EDGE] in a specific stone won't help either EDIT: I'm not an expert at modding though. It would be helpful if someone else check this

(0035327) chaosvolt (reporter) 2016-05-28 21:56	Ah, so that eliminates one potential cause.

(0035337) chaosvolt (reporter) 2016-05-29 23:57	I did some quick testing. First I tried modding in a reaction to produce a metal version of these stone axes. It did not allow woodcutting. Then I modded up a genuine WEAPON version which equivalent properties to the tool version. Both stone and metal versions of this weapon worked. So it seems that yes, the stone axe being of item type "TOOL" is the apparent cause here. Adding that to my advance list of things to change in my mod for the time being. :V

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