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0010031Dwarf FortressCreaturespublic2016-10-04 17:312019-02-02 09:50
Goblin Cookie 
Loci 
normalminoralways
confirmedopen 
0.43.05 
 
0010031: Wild creatures that should normally be hostile due to their [LARGE_PREDATOR] tag are harmless if intelligent.
A bug that I have noticed for a long time due to things like friendly trolls but should have reported before.

If a creature has [LARGE_PREDATOR] or [OPPOSED_TO_LIFE] and no entity allegiance, so it is considered to be an 'animal' by the game it will normally attack the player in both modes. However if the creature is an [INTELLIGENT] creature or has [CAN_LEARN] or [CAN_SPEAK] (any of those tags) they are not properly hostile and will instead ignore the player.

This means it is impossible to create intelligent hostile creatures at the moment and the wild vanilla trolls are harmless even though they should not be given their tags.
1. Load up an adventurer.
2. Go underground.
3. Find a troll.
4. Walk up to it and say hi.
No tags attached.
has duplicate 0011018resolved Loci Blind Cave Ogre walks the fortress and no one cares 
Issue History
2016-10-04 17:31Goblin CookieNew Issue
2016-10-04 22:44InfantIguanaNote Added: 0035944
2016-10-05 06:31OluapPlayerNote Added: 0035946
2016-10-05 19:29LociAssigned To => Loci
2016-10-05 19:29LociStatusnew => confirmed
2016-10-06 02:53jjl2357Note Added: 0035949
2016-11-03 17:31FantasticDorfNote Added: 0036030
2016-11-03 17:32FantasticDorfNote Edited: 0036030bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0036030#r14520
2017-06-08 19:31HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2017-10-28 09:08FantasticDorfNote Deleted: 0036030
2018-04-07 08:22FantasticDorfNote Added: 0038138
2018-08-05 07:22FantasticDorfNote Added: 0038682
2018-08-05 07:27FantasticDorfNote Edited: 0038682bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0038682#r15724
2019-02-02 09:48LociRelationship addedhas duplicate 0011018
2019-02-02 09:50LociNote Added: 0039174

Notes
(0035944)
InfantIguana   
2016-10-04 22:44   
I can confirm this. Modded creatures with the [LARGE_PREDATOR] and [INTELLIGENT] tags behave the same way.
(0035946)
OluapPlayer   
2016-10-05 06:31   
That would explain the undead ghouls I made completely ignoring dwarves.

Can confirm.
(0035949)
jjl2357   
2016-10-06 02:53   
That would explain the log saying that sparrow men, cougar men, etc. attacked me despite the actual creatures not doing so.
(0038138)
FantasticDorf   
2018-04-07 08:22   
Still occurs post 44.06's hostility bugfix "(*) Made monster-type critters and non-monster-type critters have proper hostile again" in version 44.09
(0038682)
FantasticDorf   
2018-08-05 07:22   
(edited on: 2018-08-05 07:27)
Present unto 44.12, cavern trolls are entirely transfixed upon breaking a pathable object and will stand around for periods of time attacking it until it's gone with civilian dwarves ignoring it and trolls in turn ignoring civilians as they run past.

- To test, literally open up the caverns, try not to die to dangerous fauna and let trolls wander in and head towards your populated workshops/statue gardens.

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They only react to the military targeting them with a sanctioned kill command for acting as they should as a large predator in a dangerous encouter you see in places like adventure mode.

Other bugged creatures like named large predators from 0008696 are the same, as they wont engage in lethal fight with civilians to start, and if they do fight it always ends on terms of the creature lying on the ground still living having been defeated in hand to hand combat and the fight ends. Even if they are a zombie.

The dwarves appear to be restricted by the sanctioning kill ethic to ever escalate, and even animals and the undead play parlay versus fistfighting civilian opponents instead of armed military dwarves.

0009047 seems to be relevant for armed opponent vs unarmed opponent.

(0039174)
Loci   
2019-02-02 09:50   
v0.44.12: Drahflow posted a save in 0011018:

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14220 [^]