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0002407Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Haulingpublic2010-06-20 21:362010-08-10 00:12
Jh00 
Footkerchief 
normalminorhave not tried
resolvedno change required 
Windows 7Windows 7Windows 7
0.31.08 
 
0002407: Dwarves don't haul metal ore to stockpile anymore
I set a stockpile to receive Stones/Metal/All

It worked when I initially built this fortress, but now that I reclaimed it (and built the same stockpile again), dwarves don't haul copper nuggets and hematite to this stockpile.

Here is a link to the savegame: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2557 [^]

The stockpile is right beside the magma smelters.
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related to 0001519resolved Toady One Bars not being stockpiled because haulers are waiting to haul inaccessible items outside the fortress 
Issue History
2010-06-20 21:36Jh00New Issue
2010-06-20 21:48FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0000863
2010-06-20 21:48FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-06-20 21:48FootkerchiefResolutionopen => duplicate
2010-06-20 21:48FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-06-21 12:14Jh00Note Added: 0008896
2010-06-21 12:14Jh00Statusresolved => needs feedback
2010-06-21 12:14Jh00Resolutionduplicate => reopened
2010-06-21 12:52FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief =>
2010-06-21 12:52FootkerchiefStatusneeds feedback => new
2010-06-21 12:53FootkerchiefNote Added: 0008913
2010-06-21 13:31Jh00Note Added: 0008914
2010-06-21 13:40FootkerchiefNote Added: 0008916
2010-06-22 07:54Jh00Issue Monitored: Jh00
2010-06-22 08:10FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0008916bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0008916#r3419
2010-06-27 17:24Jh00Issue End Monitor: Jh00
2010-07-04 10:28FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-04 10:29FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009624
2010-07-04 10:29FootkerchiefRelationship deleted0000863
2010-07-04 10:29FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001519
2010-07-07 07:32Jh00Note Added: 0009719
2010-07-07 08:42Jh00Note Added: 0009727
2010-07-07 08:48smjjamesNote Added: 0009728
2010-07-07 08:54FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009730
2010-07-07 08:54FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-07-07 08:54FootkerchiefResolutionreopened => no change required
2010-07-07 08:54FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-08-10 00:12DwarfuTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE

Notes
(0008896)
Jh00   
2010-06-21 12:14   
For the sake of reporting, I would like to add that the metal that isn´t being hauled is NEW (i.e., was not available by the time I reclaimed). In other words, I reclaimed -> built a new stockpile -> mined some walls -> found some new ore -> ore stay there.

Curiously, it seems to affect only cooper nuggets and hematite so far, since other metal ores were hauled normally.
(0008913)
Footkerchief   
2010-06-21 12:53   
Oh, hmm... might be a new manifestation of 0001173, I guess.
(0008914)
Jh00   
2010-06-21 13:31   
I dunno... In the report you mentioned, nothing seemed to be hauled because apparently the game could not create more "dump item" jobs.

In this case however, hauling works normally with food, furniture etc. The game seems to be assigning new "haul orders" normaly. The problem is that for some reason those metals are being ignored for stockpiling.

One thing worth mentioning is that when I order some copper smelted, the smelter can actually bring ore to the smelter, so I suppose the ore isn´t "locked", it is just being ignored for the stockpile.
(0008916)
Footkerchief   
2010-06-21 13:40   
(edited on: 2010-06-22 08:10)
Yeah, I didn't mean 0001173 itself so much as related bugs like 0001519, which sounds very much like this bug. I guess you could try forbidding everything in your fortress except for the ore, and see if they'll haul it then.

(0009624)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-04 10:29   
Reminder sent to: Jh00

Any updates? Can you rule out 0001519 as the cause of this bug?
(0009719)
Jh00   
2010-07-07 07:32   
I will have another look and will post my findings here.
(0009727)
Jh00   
2010-07-07 08:42   
I will have another look and will post my findings here.

EDIT: I followed your advice and forbid everything I found but the ores. After further testing, I realized that the problem was in fact the Orders set to "Refuse Minerals", which I didn´t know existed, but I may have activated it by mistake ("o" "s") while trying to cancel squad orders ("s" "o"). This explains why the Smelter was gathering hematite and copper nuggets even though the stockpile wasn´t being filled with metal ore.

Since that I originally reported that "other ores were being hauled", I created other stockpiles and mined for more ore and observed that everything were being hauled correctly after I turned "Refuse Minerals" off. I think I got the impression that other metals were being hauled probably by seeing rocks that has the same tile as metal ore being hauled.

So, I shamefully ask that this "bug" be closed as "resolved". Sorry for the misleading report.
(0009728)
smjjames   
2010-07-07 08:48   
The 'o'rders menu strikes again!

Don't worry about being shameful, you'd be surprised how often the orders menu trips people up.
(0009730)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-07 08:54   
No problem, thanks for investigating.