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0002595Dwarf FortressMiscellaneous Crashespublic2010-07-08 05:172014-12-23 14:10
melampyre 
Footkerchief 
normalcrashalways
resolvedunable to reproduce 
WindowsXP
0.31.08 
 
0002595: DF crashes when falling HFS creature hits the ground
After having detected a goblin ambush I decide testing to send a near military dwarf alone to see if he can handle the ambush; of course he is killed... But because the ambush happen just before spring, the game made a save while the dwarf is still alive, so I CTRL-ALT-DEL Dwarf Fortress and reload the spring auto-save. Sadly the savegame have been corrupted and DF always crash around 20 steps after unpause the game :-(
-Load the save
-Wait around 20 steps or remove the pause
-BOOM
-Save can be found here : http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2642 [^]
-My game is modded
-I've tested on two differents pc with and without graphics on, each time the game crash
-Windows XP 32 bits
crash
has duplicate 0003126resolved Footkerchief crash after a forgotten beast spawn 
related to 0004411resolved Toady One Game crashes the moment a weak-material creature (such as fire man or some HFS creatures) should take damage from falling 
Issue History
2010-07-08 05:17melampyreNew Issue
2010-07-08 06:09FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009780
2010-07-08 06:21melampyreNote Added: 0009781
2010-07-08 06:35Village IdiotTag Attached: crash
2010-07-08 06:43melampyreNote Added: 0009783
2010-07-08 07:12FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009784
2010-07-08 07:45melampyreNote Added: 0009786
2010-07-08 08:12FootkerchiefCategoryTechnical -- Saving/Loading => Miscellaneous Crashes
2010-07-09 07:42melampyreNote Added: 0009825
2010-07-09 08:37FootkerchiefSummaryCorrupted save making DF to crash => DF crashes when falling creature hits the ground
2010-07-09 08:37FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009826
2010-07-09 08:41smjjamesNote Added: 0009827
2010-07-09 09:50FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009830
2010-07-09 11:06melampyreNote Added: 0009833
2010-07-09 11:22FootkerchiefSummaryDF crashes when falling creature hits the ground => DF crashes when falling HFS creature hits the ground
2010-07-09 12:22smjjamesNote Added: 0009837
2011-08-07 08:23Knight OtuRelationship addedrelated to 0004411
2012-01-06 19:20FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003126
2014-12-23 13:42JayJayForceNote Added: 0031443
2014-12-23 14:10FootkerchiefNote Added: 0031444
2014-12-23 14:10FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2014-12-23 14:10FootkerchiefResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2014-12-23 14:10FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief

Notes
(0009780)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-08 06:09   
Do you get any error message when it crashes?
(0009781)
melampyre   
2010-07-08 06:21   
Only the standard Windows "submit crash report" dialog
(0009783)
melampyre   
2010-07-08 06:43   
And additional info, the previous auto save (winter 153) is working fine.
(0009784)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-08 07:12   
What makes you think the save is "corrupted" per se? Often these seemingly random crashes are caused by creatures (e.g. ambushers, invaders, forgotten beasts, etc) entering the map.
(0009786)
melampyre   
2010-07-08 07:45   
Two things:
-First, the save is a seasonal save; so I didn't left the game after it and the game was working (means : successfully continue after step 20). I only kill DF myself (CTRL+ALT+DEL) after the dwarf dead because I wanted to try an other tactic (3-4 unpaussed minutes later). I know, this is cheating, please be mercyful :-p
-Secondly, it is not the first time such bug appears on mantis ( http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1597 [^] here for example). But that was for a previous version so I created a new mantis.

These things let me think this problem could be related to a save corruption.
(0009825)
melampyre   
2010-07-09 07:42   
I think this could interest the people that face the same bug.
I successfully fix my game using reveal tools and Runesmith to kill the creature that crashes the game. In my case that was an underground undead monster, and the only notable thing about it was it was falling (despite his wings) and when it reaches the ground (20 steps later), the game crashed.
However I don't really trust memory editing tools; I will continue from my previous seasonal save instead.
(0009826)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-09 08:37   
What kind of creature is the "underground undead monster"? Is it a forgotten beast? Does it have a name?
(0009827)
smjjames   
2010-07-09 08:41   
Why was it falling in the first place?
(0009830)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-09 09:50   
Also, did you do any post-world-generation modding?
(0009833)
melampyre   
2010-07-09 11:06   
[WARNING: SPOILER]

-Not a forgotten beast, it’s a demon. Not one of these demons released when you breach hell but a “wild” demon that is present in hell before (I haven’t beach hell in my game) Its description says:
Skeletal Snail Monster.
A gigantic hairy snail, it has thin wings of stretched skin and it has gaunt appearance, Beware its fire!
It also has only a body, a shell a right wing and a left wing, so no legs nor arms.
-I don’t know why it is falling. It is underground, there is nothing around it and it has wings… so no reason that it can’t fly.
-Yes I did some post gen modding, I wanted the genesis mod training reactions but I forget to add the new building, so I post-gen mod the reactions to use the soap maker building.
I also made some additional tests:
1)Using Runesmith to make it fall from different elevations, and yes it is always when it reach the ground that the game crash.
2)If I teleport it on the ground before it start falling there is no problem.
3)And finally, if I teleport it on the ground near goblins, when the fight start, the game crash.
(0009837)
smjjames   
2010-07-09 12:22   
Are demons suppoused to be able to be made undead? That question can only be answered by Toady though.
(0031443)
JayJayForce   
2014-12-23 13:42   
Should this be marked as resolved along with the rest of the old crash bugs, or is there a reason this is still here?
(0031444)
Footkerchief   
2014-12-23 14:10   
Yeah.

If anyone has a save that reproduces this problem in the latest version, please upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and reopen this report (or PM a manager on the forums).