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0002656Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Smeltingpublic2010-07-12 10:332010-08-10 00:11
0002656: unknown trigger, but after a period workshops no longer allow me to smelt compounds - steel bronze electrum etc
this usually occurs about a year or three into the game. After some time the option to smelt bronze, steel, adamntium(not a compound but also dissapears), electrium etc are not present in the workshop job options. The raw materials for each compound are available - pig iron bars, iron bars, coke, chalk, raw adamintine, ores etc.

I am currently unsure as to the trigger. This has happened in every fort i have run sincve 2010 that has lasted more than two or three years and built a significant smelting industry. IN my most recent fort it occured jusdt after mining out some adamintine.
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duplicate of 0000434resolved Toady One Reaction jobs (unlike other jobs) don't look outside burrow for workers and raw materials (works through manager) 
Issue History
2010-07-12 10:33de5me7New Issue
2010-07-12 10:50FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010047
2010-07-12 10:51FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0010047bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010047#r3881
2010-07-12 10:51FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0010047bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010047#r3882
2010-07-12 13:52FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-12 13:57QuietustNote Added: 0010064
2010-07-13 12:55FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010164
2010-07-13 14:17de5me7Note Added: 0010171
2010-07-13 15:44FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010176
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0010176bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010176#r3949
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0000434
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefResolutionopen => duplicate
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0010176bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010176#r3950
2010-07-13 15:45FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0010176bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010176#r3951
2010-08-10 00:11DwarfuTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE

2010-07-12 10:50   
(edited on: 2010-07-12 10:51)
Can you still smelt plain metals from ore, e.g. copper, iron, etc?

Is the smelter inside a burrow?

Is it a magma smelter or a normal smelter? Are you SURE you have enough fuel?

If you add the jobs via the manager, do they complete successfully? If not, what cancellation message do you get?

If none of that explains it, and the problem persists after a save/load, it would be helpful to upload a save demonstrating the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

2010-07-12 13:57   
For reference, it's never been possible to smelt raw adamantine directly - you have to extract strands from it at a Craftsdwarf's workshop, then make those strands into wafers.
2010-07-13 12:55   
Reminder sent to: de5me7

Any answers to the questions that were asked?
2010-07-13 14:17   
Smelters are magma, so no fuel issues, they are in burrows, but my whole fort is, and i only use the burrow system to get dorfs underground during invasions. I can smelt iron etc. (although creation of burrows could be the tigger come to think about it.)

good point on adamantine ill check that.

I will upload the file an post here at the weekend when i go back home. The fort also demonstrates some other bugs quite well.
2010-07-13 15:44   
(edited on: 2010-07-13 15:45)
Ah, yeah, reaction jobs (the ones that aren't working at the smelter) have a special problem with burrows -- see 0000434. Shouldn't need a save for this one.

Thanks for the reply, and feel free to reopen this report if the problem isn't explained by 0000434.