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0002831Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Diplomacypublic2010-07-25 11:392010-09-07 04:19
Toady One 
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0002831: Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue
For the first time in 31.x I have gotten diplomats from the Elves and the Humans. I don't know yet what the Elven one had to say because he fairly quickly left unhappy, but the Human one said:

"I am your liaison from the Mountainhomes. Let's discuss your situation."
dialogue, liason
related to 0001102resolved Toady One Liaisons/diplomats not replaced 
has duplicate 0002848resolved Footkerchief Human Representative talks like Dwarven Liason 
has duplicate 0003019resolved Dwarfu Human & elf diplomats are from Mountainhomes? 
has duplicate 0003055resolved Dwarfu Everyone claims to be from the Mountainhomes 
has duplicate 0003118resolved Logical2u Elf liason claims is from the mountainhome. 
has duplicate 0003240resolved Logical2u Everyone represents the mountainhomes 
has duplicate 0003366resolved Logical2u Damn dirty elf claims to be my liason from the mountainhomes. 
Issue History
2010-07-25 11:39slinkNew Issue
2010-07-25 11:44slinkNote Added: 0010994
2010-07-25 11:45FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010995
2010-07-25 11:46FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-25 11:46slinkNote Edited: 0010994bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0010994#r4288
2010-07-25 11:47slinkNote Added: 0010996
2010-07-25 11:52FootkerchiefSummaryAll Liaisons from Mountainhomes? => Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes
2010-07-25 11:53FootkerchiefTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-25 11:54FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001102
2010-07-25 11:55FootkerchiefSummaryHuman liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes => Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement
2010-07-25 14:48FootkerchiefSummaryHuman liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement
2010-07-25 16:14Toady OneNote Added: 0011027
2010-07-25 16:14Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2010-07-25 16:14Toady OneStatusnew => acknowledged
2010-07-25 16:27FootkerchiefSummaryHuman/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue
2010-07-25 22:47FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002848
2010-07-26 09:42furiousfishNote Added: 0011085
2010-08-05 18:32HebaruSanIssue Monitored: HebaruSan
2010-08-13 12:17VolouscheurNote Added: 0011765
2010-08-13 14:30DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003019
2010-08-17 15:55DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003055
2010-08-29 13:04Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003118
2010-08-29 14:54AreyarTag Attached: liason
2010-08-29 14:54AreyarTag Attached: dialogue
2010-08-29 15:04QuietustNote Added: 0012236
2010-09-06 08:43DwarfuSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-09-06 08:46DwarfuNote Added: 0012455
2010-09-07 02:46Toady OneNote Added: 0012465
2010-09-07 02:46Toady OneStatusacknowledged => resolved
2010-09-07 02:46Toady OneFixed in Version => 0.31.13
2010-09-07 02:46Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2010-09-07 04:19DwarfuSticky IssueYes => No
2010-09-24 13:40Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003240
2010-11-06 08:53Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003366

2010-07-25 11:44   
(edited on: 2010-07-25 11:46)
This was followed by the usual comment about how you've carved a nice place out for yourself, then the conversation ended with

"I look forward to our meeting next year. Our fortunes rise and fall together."

Nothing is ever discussed about trade agreements.

Edit: Then he left via the caverns!?

2010-07-25 11:45   
Are you sure the human liaison was actually from a human civ, and not a human who grew up in the dwarven civ? The fastest way to check might be to backup the save, abandon the fortress and look him/her up in Legends.
2010-07-25 11:47   
Yes, I am certain. This is from the gamelog.

The human Engraver Nitho Gasinronik from Mong Wisho has arrived.
A human caravan from Mong Wisho has arrived.
Toady One   
2010-07-25 16:14   
Yeah, they should use the regular diplomat script but they are using the dwarf one instead. They aren't trade representatives, so they just do the boring war/peace type stuff (as with the old human diplomat). The trade nobility for humans has not been reconstructed.
2010-07-26 09:42   
The elf diplomat I got today used the dwarven greeting but then went on to demand I limit my tree-cutting (on a map with no trees), so that part seems to be working.
2010-08-13 12:17   
I've experienced the same issue. The human and elf diplomats appear and start the dialogue with the usual dwarven greetings, but then act like you'd expect them to (the elf demands a limit of tree-cutting, the human commented on how it was a "nice little place you've carved out for yourself").
2010-08-29 15:04   
It should be noted that this only occurs for diplomats that arrive at the same time as the caravans - once you get a Baron, the Human civilization will send a real Diplomat (even labeled as a "diplomat" in the arrival announcement rather than with its profession) who will use the correct introduction ("Greetings, noble dwarf. There is much to discuss.") and parting text ("It has been an honor, noble [dwarfname]. I bid you farewell."). Of course, due to 0002892, that diplomat will never come back.
2010-09-06 08:46   
Reminder sent to: Toady One

I stickied this one, only because you mentioned you'd fix it in this release:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62368.msg1430785#msg1430785 [^]

It isn't a major deal, but people (especially new people) are confusing diplomats and liaisons.
Toady One   
2010-09-07 02:46   
This should be handled for 0.31.13.