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0002852Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Noblespublic2010-07-26 07:222012-03-04 08:06
Felcis 
Footkerchief 
lowminorhave not tried
resolvedunable to reproduce 
PCWIndows Vista
0.31.12 
 
0002852: A long dead goblin becomes militia commander; entire squad empty afterwards
A military squad in my most recent fortress became empty (equipment was still there) without my influence and I could not let the dwarfes rejoin at first. To fix this problem, I had to temporarily let them join a different squad first. A (dwarven-)year later an engraving and some research in the Legends made me realize, that a goblin for some reason replaced my dwarf as militia commander (of course AFAIR, the goblin was not shown on the noble screen...the position was just empty, as was the squad).

The funniest thing? The goblin wasn´t even one of my prisoners (that would´ve been kinda cool...) or someone who was alive for that matter. The goblin in question was dead since more than 300 years! And he was also a total wuss...

As I said, it didn´t cause major problems, but it does not seem intended and maybe the bug can cause more serious problem under different circumstances.

Screenshots:
http://www.npshare.de/files/2d38757a/DF%20wtf%20goblincommander1.jpg [^] <- Engraving
http://www.npshare.de/files/6acd0b1d/DF%20wtf%20goblincommander2.jpg [^] <- Legends of my Fortress (The Tufted Inks)
http://www.npshare.de/files/08407d92/DF%20wtf%20goblincommander3.jpg [^] <- Legends of the Goblin (Atu Witchweaken)
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related to 0001806resolved Toady One Non-cancelled kill orders persist into newly generated world and fortress. 
Issue History
2010-07-26 07:22FelcisNew Issue
2010-07-26 08:37FootkerchiefNote Added: 0011075
2010-07-26 09:47FelcisNote Added: 0011086
2010-07-26 12:59FootkerchiefNote Added: 0011097
2010-07-26 16:15FelcisNote Added: 0011113
2010-08-04 14:56Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-08-14 16:55DwarfuNote Added: 0011796
2010-08-14 16:55DwarfuTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-08-14 16:55DwarfuTag Attached: Save Included
2010-08-15 09:19QuietustNote Added: 0011808
2010-08-18 20:54FelcisNote Added: 0011904
2010-08-19 01:00DwarfuTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-08-27 01:46FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0003109
2011-02-28 21:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedchild of 0001806
2011-02-28 21:35FootkerchiefRelationship deletedrelated to 0003109
2011-03-09 04:08Toady OneRelationship replacedrelated to 0001806
2011-03-14 09:50FootkerchiefTag Attached: Fixed in 0.31.22?
2012-02-16 12:22FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2012-02-16 12:22FootkerchiefTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2012-02-16 12:22FootkerchiefNote Added: 0019830
2012-02-16 12:22FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2012-02-16 12:22FootkerchiefResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2012-02-16 12:22FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2012-03-04 08:06DwarfuTag Detached: Fixed in 0.31.22?

Notes
(0011075)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-26 08:37   
Aside from the engraving, was there any evidence in Fortress Mode that the goblin was the militia commander?

Does your errorlog contain anything about invalid ID numbers?
(0011086)
Felcis   
2010-07-26 09:47   
I couldn´t find anything related in the errorlog (only invalid goals, same squares and unrecognized tokens) and all I could find in the Fortress are more engravings of his appointment and the removal of the previous commander.
(0011097)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-26 12:59   
Hmm... you should probably upload your save for this one. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

Also, what happens if you appoint a new militia commander? Does the goblin's Legends page then say that he ceased to be the militia commander?
(0011113)
Felcis   
2010-07-26 16:15   
Now that you say it, there is no announcement of him being removed, neither in the fortresses legend nor in his. The screenshots I posted were all taken roughly one ingame-year after the incident happened (and I already fixed the problem at that point, without even realizing the cause).

I uploaded the save here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2831 [^]
(0011796)
Dwarfu   
2010-08-14 16:55   
I see the entries of the goblin's appointment in his legends several hundred years after he was murdered.

You say you "already fixed the problem"...how?

It does not appear your fortress was generated in 31.12 even though that is your current version as your raws are dated earlier than they should be. Did you install a mod or do some editing yourself?
(0011808)
Quietust   
2010-08-15 09:19   
Dwarfu: if you export worldgen info, it should indicate the version that was used to generate the world.
(0011904)
Felcis   
2010-08-18 20:54   
I only fixed the problem with my empty squad, by temporarily assigning the dwarfes to another squad and reassigning them to the old squad afterwards (they would not appear in the list otherwise.

Yes, the world was generated in an older version (31.02 to be precise), because I stopped playing it when an unkillable vomit-megabeast appeared and continued later when it was fixed. The "goblin appointment"-bug happened in 31.12 though and I doubt that the problem lies in the version-change.
(0019830)
Footkerchief   
2012-02-16 12:22   
Please reopen this report or PM me on the forums if this bug can be reproduced in 0.34.01.