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0005551Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Childcarepublic2012-03-04 22:412016-08-01 04:55
Reporterfossphur 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusconfirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformwindowsOSwindows 7OS Version64bit
Product Version0.34.04 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0005551: Migrant mother ignores baby
DescriptionI received a small wave of migrants in my first summer, 3 adults and a baby. The baby is one year old but crawled on to the map by itself and was ignored by the mother. The mother then, in early Autumn, had another baby. Now the first baby has no hope of being cared for and is hungry/thirsty/dying.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional InformationThe baby is not visible as a citizen in Dwarf Therapist.
Tags0.34.02, baby, childcare, migrant baby
Relationships
parent of 0009197new  Guests´ baby is left at fortress as a "friendy" unit. 
has duplicate 0005258resolved Footkerchief Immigrant babies from previous fort don't get picked up 
has duplicate 0007498resolved Footkerchief Migrant Babies not carried by mother 
has duplicate 0007509resolved Knight Otu Immigrant mother leaves baby to crawl to fort 
has duplicate 0007972resolved Knight Otu Baby immigrants come crawling to fortess not being carried by an adult. 
Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed.
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2012-03-04 22:41fossphurNew Issue
2012-03-04 22:42fossphurTag Attached: 0.34.02
2012-03-04 22:42fossphurTag Attached: baby
2012-03-04 22:42fossphurTag Attached: childcare
2012-03-04 22:42fossphurTag Attached: migrant baby
2012-03-05 00:46fossphurIssue Monitored: fossphur
2012-03-05 08:18FootkerchiefNote Added: 0021112
2012-03-05 08:18FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2012-03-05 09:01fossphurNote Added: 0021126
2012-03-22 19:50SilverEchoNote Added: 0021670
2012-04-11 12:06FootkerchiefTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2012-04-17 13:14greycatNote Added: 0022291
2012-04-17 13:14greycatNote Edited: 0022291bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0022291#r8304
2012-04-18 07:59greycatNote Added: 0022301
2012-04-18 08:02greycatNote Edited: 0022291bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0022291#r8311
2012-04-18 13:27greycatNote Added: 0022309
2014-07-19 18:11FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005258
2014-07-19 18:11FootkerchiefSummaryMigrant mother ignores baby, has another => Migrant mother ignores baby
2014-07-19 18:11FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007498
2014-07-19 18:11FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: ToadChild
2014-07-20 07:21Knight OtuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007509
2014-07-20 15:57ToadChildIssue End Monitor: ToadChild
2014-07-20 15:58ToadChildIssue Monitored: ToadChild
2014-07-20 17:35SteveTheRedNote Added: 0027084
2014-08-04 12:58Dame de la LicorneNote Added: 0028304
2014-08-04 13:00Dame de la LicorneNote Edited: 0028304bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028304#r10734
2014-08-04 13:27Dame de la LicorneNote Edited: 0028304bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028304#r10740
2014-08-08 16:19FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-08-08 16:19FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed
2014-08-08 17:134maskwolfIssue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-08-12 05:33Knight OtuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007972
2014-08-13 13:41BenLubarIssue Monitored: BenLubar
2014-08-13 13:54BenLubarNote Added: 0028987
2015-02-25 13:40HairyDudeIssue Monitored: HairyDude
2015-02-25 15:36Afghani84Issue Monitored: Afghani84
2015-12-04 22:27DwarfuRelationship addedparent of 0009197
2015-12-28 08:20awdixonNote Added: 0034235
2016-08-01 04:55SinistarNote Added: 0035730

Notes
(0021112)
Footkerchief   
2012-03-05 08:18   
Reminder sent to: fossphur

Please upload a save demonstrating this problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/, [^] otherwise we can't do anything about this report.
(0021126)
fossphur   
2012-03-05 09:01   
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5784 [^]

Here is a link to the save. I thought I'd completely lost the save but I found one where the original baby had already died.
(0021670)
SilverEcho   
2012-03-22 19:50   
I had two migrant waves that each had a mother ignoring her baby. In both cases, saving and continuing caused the mother to seek the infant.

save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5971 [^]

I'm not sure how useful that will be, since saving seems to fix it. If it happens again, I'll see if saving while their migrant status is still on works any differently.
(0022291)
greycat   
2012-04-17 13:14   
(edited on: 2012-04-18 08:02)
I also have a fortress showing this bug (in 0.34.07). First wave of immigrants arrived in the summer of the first year (131) -- a married couple and their two children. The first child has the title "Dwarven Child", and is a four-year-old boy, born in 127. The second child has the title "Dwarven Baby", and is a three-year-old girl, born in 128.

The "Baby" moves very slowly and erratically, and has been ignored by the other dwarves so far. The "Child" moves at normal speed and was able to report to the meeting zone in a timely manner. (The "Baby" did finally crawl into the fortress, but it was uncertain whether she'd do so before being picked off by wildlife.)

There are already two saves uploaded, so I'll just hold on to this one unless someone specifically requests it.

(Edit: later, after saving and reloading (possibly more than once), the mother is now carrying her 3-year-old "baby" around.)
(0022301)
greycat   
2012-04-18 07:59   
In this same fortress, the "Child" (4-year-old boy) is now performing the "Plant Seeds" job. I don't know if this is the same bug or a different bug; children are not supposed to be performing that job as far as I know (they can harvest, but not plant).

"v-p" still says "A child does as it pleases!", and will not let me assign or unassign labors.
(0022309)
greycat   
2012-04-18 13:27   
More immigrant waves, more data points.

As far as I can tell, if a family from a previous (abandoned) fortress shows up, their youngest child is *always* given the "Dwarven Baby" label, regardless of how old it is.

The Baby becomes a Child when the calendar advances to that child's birthday.

Saving and reloading seems to kickstart the mothering instinct, making mothers go pick up their babies. (Unless the mother's possessed, etc.)
(0027084)
SteveTheRed   
2014-07-20 17:35   
Still there in 0.40.03
(0028304)
Dame de la Licorne   
2014-08-04 12:58   
(edited on: 2014-08-04 13:27)
Playing a fort genned in 0.40.05 that was moved to 0.40.06. I just received a one month old baby in the latest migrant wave, which the mother is steadfastly ignoring.

Oddity: Same fort, needed to reload a save before that migrant wave (for unrelated reasons), and just got a new migrant wave with a baby, in which the mother did turn back and pick the baby up.
(0028987)
BenLubar   
2014-08-13 13:54   
0.40.08 - migrant mother ignored baby until I saved and reloaded. Baby was starving and immediately cured of starvation when picked up. Baby has alcohol deprivation sickness and "often feels lustful".

Immediately after reloading (I had saved so I could upload the world for this bug) the mother did this:

"Monom Uzolsashas, Metalsmith cancels Store Item in Vehicle: Seeking Infant."

I've only ever seen that right after a dwarf gives birth.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9385 [^]

It seems the workaround is to just save and reload after each migrant wave that has babies in it.
(0034235)
awdixon   
2015-12-28 08:20   
Still present in 42.03. Same for me as BenLubar, save and reload causes mother to cancel task at reload to go pick up infant.
(0035730)
Sinistar   
2016-08-01 04:55   
Can confirm as of 0.43.05 the issue still exists. Observed it in two different forts, two different worlds. Save + reload fixes it still.