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0000576Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Diplomacypublic2010-04-05 23:252014-08-13 13:28
0000576: Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" if expedition leader dies
As soon as the announcement for a Caravan/Liaison arrival occurs, the "The Diplomat Has Left Unhappy" immediately pops up, and he/she leaves before they even enter my screen.
This has happened with multiple diplomats on the same site, but this is my first DF2010 fort so I have no idea about reproducibility
diplomat, Fixed in 0.40.01?, Intentional/Expected?, liaison, liason
related to 0000519resolved Toady One Liaison doesn't offer baron/count/duke options unless meeting occurs after caravan leaves 
related to 0001102resolved Toady One Liaisons/diplomats not replaced 
parent of 0002023resolved Footkerchief dead expedition leader precludes visits by dwarven caravans 
parent of 0000622new  Diplomat leaves unhappy if expedition leader gets a mood while doing talks 
parent of 0002454acknowledged Dwarfu Diplomat leaves unhappy when new mayor elected during meeting 
parent of 0002916new  Diplomat leaves unhappy if expedition leader is replaced 
has duplicate 0001130resolved Footkerchief Liaison departs immediately upon arrival 
related to 0000141closed Toady One After death of expedition leader or mayor (any noble), positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed or replaced 
related to 0000672new  Disabled/unconscious nobles can't meet liasons 
Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed.
Issue History
2010-04-05 23:25bevilrNew Issue
2010-04-06 13:28bevilrIssue Monitored: bevilr
2010-04-06 13:28bevilrIssue End Monitor: bevilr
2010-04-11 15:17DwarfuNote Added: 0002882
2010-04-11 15:17DwarfuIssue Monitored: Dwarfu
2010-04-11 19:57bevilrNote Added: 0002953
2010-04-12 10:26WolfenNote Added: 0003077
2010-04-12 11:43DwarfuNote Added: 0003093
2010-04-13 23:27PigbusterTag Attached: liaison
2010-04-13 23:27PigbusterTag Attached: diplomat
2010-04-13 23:31PigbusterTag Attached: liason
2010-04-14 00:05FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001130
2010-04-14 00:06FootkerchiefRelationship addedchild of 0000141
2010-04-14 00:06FootkerchiefSummaryDiplomat "Leaves Unhappily" as soon as he arrives => Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" as soon as he arrives when expedition leader is dead
2010-04-21 11:02ZombieNote Added: 0004467
2010-05-22 01:32FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000141
2010-05-22 01:33FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002023
2010-06-23 22:31FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000672
2010-06-23 22:31FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000622
2010-06-23 22:31FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002454
2010-07-23 20:44Gopher of PernNote Added: 0010892
2010-07-24 00:07FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000519
2010-07-24 00:07FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001440
2010-07-24 00:08FootkerchiefRelationship deletedrelated to 0001440
2010-07-24 00:08FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0001102
2010-07-24 00:08FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-07-31 09:51greycatNote Added: 0011323
2010-07-31 09:56greycatNote Edited: 0011323bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0011323#r4442
2010-08-01 15:26FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002916
2010-08-10 09:58theqmannIssue Monitored: theqmann
2011-04-11 03:11KogutNote Added: 0017291
2014-01-20 17:28AWellTrainedFerretNote Added: 0024287
2014-01-22 12:28FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000672
2014-01-27 12:56FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0001130
2014-01-27 12:56FootkerchiefNote Added: 0024400
2014-07-18 14:38thvazNote Added: 0026904
2014-07-18 14:39thvazNote Edited: 0026904bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0026904#r10030
2014-07-18 16:11Rafal99Note Added: 0026910
2014-07-18 16:12Rafal99Note Deleted: 0026910
2014-07-18 17:23FootkerchiefTag Attached: Fixed in 0.40.01?
2014-07-26 19:06dree12Note Added: 0027658
2014-07-26 19:07dree12Note Edited: 0027658bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0027658#r10451
2014-07-26 19:07dree12Note Edited: 0027658bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0027658#r10452
2014-08-13 10:404maskwolfNote Added: 0028954
2014-08-13 10:49FootkerchiefSummaryDiplomat "Leaves Unhappily" as soon as he arrives when expedition leader is dead => Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" if expedition leader dies
2014-08-13 12:284maskwolfTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-08-13 13:28FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-08-13 13:28FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed

2010-04-11 15:17   
This just happened to me, however, my Expedition Leader recently met an untimely end compliments of a forgotten beast.
2010-04-11 19:57   
I think this is related to 0000141, as when this was occurring my expedition leader was dead as well.
2010-04-12 10:26   
I think you need an expedition leader, mayor or higheer-up noble to conduct meetings at all. This goes well with the bug that removes all noble positions upon death of the expedition leader.
2010-04-12 11:43   
This may be intended behavior then. In both our instances, our Expedition Leaders were dead. If a meeting requires that position or higher, then it was working correctly.

A suggestion would be to allow the Broker to accept the diplomats, but then we'd get bug reports when both the Expedition Leader and Broker were dead...

Not sure here, may have to just protect our Expedition Leaders better.
2010-04-21 11:02   
It should assign or let you assign a new one if your old one dies.
Gopher of Pern   
2010-07-23 20:44   
I had the liaison leave when my Expedition leader was in a fey mood.
2010-07-31 09:51   
(edited on: 2010-07-31 09:56)
Could we merge all these "diplomat leaves unhappy" bugs, perhaps? There seem to be a lot of them, and most include "... because leader is dead" in the title, which is not the case I saw.

My elven liaison just left unhappily either because my mayor is in a strange mood, or because my drawbridge happened to be retracted at the time of his arrival. Even though I immediately sent someone to pull the lever. I can't say for sure which of the two caused it.

2011-04-11 03:11   
Is it a bug? It sound like feature - disgusted diplomat irritated by awful fort (or cowardly running for his life).
2014-01-20 17:28   
I had a similar incident: If you replace your mayor while the diplomat is on map, he instantly leaves disgusted. Apparently, when he arrives, he's looking for a specific dorf to hold a meeting with; and his target cannot change.
2014-01-27 12:56   
From 0001130: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/zip/region1_liaisonBug.zip [^]
2014-07-18 14:38   
(edited on: 2014-07-18 14:39)
This one may be fixed - Expedition leaders now change based on the new sucession mechanic. I had my expedition leader chosen to be king in my only fort in 0.34.XX so far, and another dwarf was chosen to be expedition leader. However, if the expedition leader dies or is replaced while the outpost liason is in the site, he still leaves unhappy.

2014-07-26 19:06   
(edited on: 2014-07-26 19:07)
Leaving unhappy because the expedition leader dies while the liaison is on-site makes sense and is probably intended. Leaving unhappy because the expedition leader has been replaced is a bit more iffy.

BTW: I can confirm that expedition leaders are being replaced automatically now. Death should no longer cause a vacancy in that position.

2014-08-13 10:40   
The specific bug this references is indeed fixed, since the expedition leader is automatically replaced. However, the (bug?) of the diplomat leaving then the expedition leader dies is still around.