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0006427Dwarf FortressTypos/Grammarpublic2014-02-03 06:442015-05-13 10:56
aztectornado 
Toady One 
lowtextalways
resolvedno change required 
PCWindows 8.1N/A
0.34.11 
 
0006427: "Fishes" is listed as a plural noun in Dwarf language, rather than "Fish"
When embarking and choosing a fortress name, every entry of plural "fish" is instead "Fishes".
0.34.11, Intentional/Expected?, language, Probable Quick Fix, text
Issue History
2014-02-03 06:44aztectornadoNew Issue
2014-02-03 06:48aztectornadoTag Attached: 0.34.11
2014-02-03 06:48aztectornadoTag Attached: grammer
2014-02-03 06:48aztectornadoTag Attached: language
2014-02-03 06:48aztectornadoTag Attached: Probable Quick Fix
2014-02-03 06:48aztectornadoTag Attached: text
2014-02-03 06:50aztectornadoNote Added: 0024490
2014-02-03 08:25dree12Note Added: 0024493
2014-02-03 08:34dree12Note Edited: 0024493bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0024493#r9134
2014-02-03 10:59FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-07-25 13:31Toady OneNote Added: 0027539
2014-07-25 13:31Toady OneStatusnew => resolved
2014-07-25 13:31Toady OneResolutionopen => no change required
2014-07-25 13:31Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2014-07-25 13:31Toady OneNote Edited: 0027539bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0027539#r10378
2015-05-13 10:56lethosorTag Detached: grammer

Notes
(0024490)
aztectornado   
2014-02-03 06:50   
The issue is in line 2636 of language_words.txt in the raws. Replacing it with " [NOUN:fish:fish] " should fix the issue.
(0024493)
dree12   
2014-02-03 08:25   
(edited on: 2014-02-03 08:34)
Just curious, why is this a bug? "Fishes" is indeed an acceptable plural for "fish".

Here (southwestern Ontario), the use of "fish" vs. "fishes" seems to be as follows:

Fish:

  • A mass noun: We ate some fish for breakfast.

  • A singular animal: He caught a fish yesterday.

  • A singular species: A fish we can't live without is the Bluefin Tuna.

  • Plural animals (sometimes): There are thousands of fish in this lake!



Fishes:

  • Plural animals (sometimes): She counted 17 individual fishes in this river.

  • Plural species: The most often consumed fishes are tuna, salmon, and tilapia.



(0027539)
Toady One   
2014-07-25 13:31   
Yeah, this was one of the rare conscious decisions in the language raws, rather than a typo. "Fishes" is a valid, if not often used, plural form -- the way names work in DF, using fish again is sort of redundant in comparison, although most names that use a plural of fish are probably silly anyway. If using proper sorts of plurals matters later, we'll have this and other words to get right in the raws.