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0000722Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Embark/Setuppublic2010-04-07 09:142016-05-18 12:24
Toady One 
0000722: Embark profile warns that fish not available, but they actually are
When I load a saved embark setup, I get warned there is no good (for example cave lobster) available to embark with, but when I go to the items screen to select something new, cave lobster will be available as an embark item.
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related to 0000135resolved Toady One Fish and other creatures listed twice in embark screen and trade screen, with no male/female symbol 
has duplicate 0001563resolved Footkerchief Fish are ALWAYS flagged and removed at embark even if they are available 
has duplicate 0002413resolved Footkerchief Fish at Embark in profiles 
has duplicate 0005467resolved Footkerchief saved embark profiles don't find fish or turtles despite those being available to the civ chosen 
has duplicate 0005586resolved Knight Otu Embark Preparations Not Complete, No Cave Lobster, No Cave Fish, No Pond Turtle, but able to select them in Fish menu 
has duplicate 0008117resolved Footkerchief Items which are available trigger the unavailability warning 
related to 0002740resolved Logical2u Modifying a saved embark profile gives extra points 
related to 0000218confirmed Footkerchief Vermin meat/organs can be obtained from embark/caravan 
child of 0004973resolved Toady One Vermin reactions do not recognize caste 
Issue History
2010-04-07 09:14damoclesNew Issue
2010-04-07 10:06FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000135
2010-04-07 10:07FootkerchiefRelationship replacedchild of 0000135
2010-04-07 10:07FootkerchiefSummarywarn of no good when good exists => Embark screen warns that saved items (cave lobster) are not available, but they actually are
2010-04-07 10:08FootkerchiefNote Added: 0001773
2010-04-08 03:08damoclesNote Added: 0001990
2010-04-08 22:41InksterNote Added: 0002266
2010-04-09 00:19FootkerchiefRelationship deletedchild of 0000135
2010-04-16 07:41ercdvsNote Added: 0003844
2010-04-16 08:10ProteusNote Added: 0003846
2010-04-26 20:40FootkerchiefSummaryEmbark screen warns that saved items (cave lobster) are not available, but they actually are => Embark screen warns that embark profile items (meat/fish) are not available, but they actually are
2010-04-26 20:41FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000135
2010-04-26 20:53FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001563
2010-04-26 20:57DoctorZuberNote Added: 0005271
2010-04-26 21:08FootkerchiefNote Added: 0005273
2010-04-26 21:08FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-26 21:10DoctorZuberNote Added: 0005274
2010-04-26 21:29FootkerchiefSummaryEmbark screen warns that embark profile items (meat/fish) are not available, but they actually are => Embark screen warns that fish not available, but they actually are
2010-04-26 21:59Logical2uNote Added: 0005281
2010-05-01 13:48DoctorZuberNote Added: 0005855
2010-06-21 09:00FootkerchiefSummaryEmbark screen warns that fish not available, but they actually are => Embark profile warns that fish not available, but they actually are
2010-06-21 09:01FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002413
2010-07-18 01:53FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002740
2010-07-25 15:28FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000218
2010-12-25 05:07KogutIssue Monitored: Kogut
2012-02-26 14:37FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005467
2012-02-26 14:38FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0001563
2012-02-28 00:31SyndicNote Added: 0020830
2012-03-08 23:58Knight OtuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005586
2014-08-22 09:55FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0008117
2014-08-22 09:55FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-08-22 09:55FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed
2014-08-22 10:47lethosorNote Added: 0029493
2014-08-22 10:49lethosorNote Edited: 0029493bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0029493#r11374
2016-05-18 12:24Toady OneStatusconfirmed => resolved
2016-05-18 12:24Toady OneFixed in Version => Next Version
2016-05-18 12:24Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2016-05-18 12:24Toady OneAssigned ToFootkerchief => Toady One
2020-04-13 09:12lethosorRelationship addedchild of 0004973

2010-04-07 10:08   
I suspect this is related to 0000135 -- the item you saved was female lobsters, but only male lobsters are available, or something.
2010-04-08 03:08   
That's odd - I searched for issues with the word embark in them, but did not find the one you linked.

However, I don't think it is related. As when I open my saved embark set and get the no lobster warning, I still have two lobster items available in the following add embark items list. So I doubt it's a male/female issue.
2010-04-08 22:41   
I have the same issue often, always for cave lobster. I can still go back in and add the cave lobster and it shows up twice
2010-04-16 07:41   
just chiming in. Cave lobster is in my saved embark profile, and i get the warning.

manually searching for 'CAVE' shows both male/female cave lobsters, which i just readd.
2010-04-16 08:10   
I have made the same observation, for cave lobster as well as for cave fish.

In all cases there were duplicate entries in the menu for selecting cave lobsters and/or -fish as new item.
So obviously both, male as well as female cave lobsters/fish were available for my dwarven civilization.
2010-04-26 20:57   
1. save an embark profile including as many different types of fish as possible.
2. start a new fortress using this saved profile
3. look over the warning screen and notice all types of fish are flagged.
4. look at the new items list and try to add fish, some or all of the fish are likely to be available.

This seems to happen with All of the double entry fish. It throws one warning about each type of fish in your profile at embark, and removes both entries. It does this even if the fish is available.
2010-04-26 21:08   
DoctorZuber: so this doesn't happen with meat, only (vermin-sized) fish?
2010-04-26 21:10   
the only one I can confirm is the double entry fish, I don't have any double entry meat in the profile that I am aware of but I'll keep looking.
2010-04-26 21:59   
Copied from a soon-to-be-child report....
I'll confirm that this occurred in my game.
I concur with Zuber's guess that it's related to the gender tagging. It seems likely that the game loses track of the gender tag during saving (since it's meat - it doesn't matter if it was a male or female fish once it's dead), but looks for the gender again once the profile is loaded. Butchered meat seems immune most of the time - the gender differentiation is presumably lost in the processing?
2010-05-01 13:48   
okay, I can confirm all these fish.

- cave lobster
- cave fish
- turtle
- lungfish

All of these are double-fish. I haven't been able to find any other double entries in the embark menu.
2012-02-28 00:31   
Still happens in 0.34.02 (thanks footkerchief, didn't find this one in the search)
2014-08-22 10:47   
(edited on: 2014-08-22 10:49)
zlobtheking uploaded a profile from 0008117: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9484 [^]
On pastebin: http://pastebin.com/nLMRwsFA [^]