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And they're not supposed to? |
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2010-04-07 19:41
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how exactly is this a bug? |
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2010-04-07 22:45
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Bringing entire barrels full of blood does not exactly seem like intended behavior. Seriously, I don't think it's even useful. |
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2010-04-08 00:48
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I don't think this is a bug. but you have a point. Why do they bring blood? Are we supposed to buy this blood? Why? What would we do with it? It doesn't seem to serve any function.
I suppose its no different than them bringing unusable plant extracts as trade goods. But then, that doesn't really make sense either. |
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Barrels of cow blood: ok I can understand that. It's when they bring barrels filled with monarch butterfly ichor that I start to wonder. |
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Perhaps this will be a more useful feature down the line, when things like alchemy and magic are working and require reagents, so I would imagine it's intended. |
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Perhaps there was a vampire fort just down the road. |
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ercdvs
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2010-04-08 07:40
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Perhaps used for cooking? Its a valid item used in foodstuffs for a very long time in the real world.
That being said, I don't know if blood is marked properly as an edible / cooking enabled item, but the forum project to clean up the raws addresses this i think. |
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Same thing encountered here...
Klingon bloodwine anyone?:P
Maybe this can be worked into a feature by enabling kitchen/still to use blood(Some cuisine use (processed)blood for cooking, But I have no idea if blood has ever been used for alcohols in reality...)
If blood's ever going to be made into food...there are still bugs with cooking liquid AFAIK... |
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If we had some way of removing the blood from the barrel we could make a blood bath or other "interesting" features but as it stands its just takeing up space that beer could be taking. |
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@GauHelldragon: Yeah, I got barrels of firefly ichor with my first caravan. Must have been a small barrel, as there were only 10 units of the stuff (or each unit took hundreds of fireflies to get). |
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2010-04-23 15:14
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Considering the fact that there are actual RL recipes that use blood (like blood sausage for example)I also don´t see it as bug.
At least getting blood as trade objects (I hope that it really can get used in meals...if not, I would rather consider this to be a bug ;) )
As for getting butterfly ichor...
well, considering the fact that we get other strange things like, for example, firefly brains and are able to turn them into meals, I assume it seems to be rather normal in the world of dwarf fortress
:D
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2010-04-25 16:24
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Likely because blood is considered an animal extract such as venom and milk. |
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As a workaround for emptying the barrels; forbid the blood, then have the barrel be taken to the trade depot. A dwarf should then move the barrel and leave the blood in the stockpile. I accidentally wasted a stockpile full of gnomeblight this way. |
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I'm reasonably certain, from hearing Toady speak about it in at least one podcast, that this is UNINTENDED behaviour, a result of these items being classified as foodstuffs. Alas, there is no [trade-exempt] tag to prevent these things from appearing in strange quantities (like the barrels full of insect brains), so the materials are collected, just like everything else. |
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There are pages of different blood available on embark.
Not bad as such, but could take some adjustments. Like making it uncommon for traders (without request) and a few applications in cooking/brewing.
Also, could vampires drink animal blood when it's available in barrels? |
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Terff
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2015-03-09 14:25
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Heh I still get "liquid" from my caravans even in 0.40
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2015-03-09 16:23
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Reminder sent to: Terff
The bringing 'liquid' bug wasn't fixed until 40.06 - are you using a more current version? |
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2017-11-26 13:05
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This stopped for blood without attached syndromes in 43.something, but has started up again in 44.01. |
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2017-11-28 21:51
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@Button:
I don't recall blood barrels ever being blocked. Here's a trading-test save I created in v0.43.05; the dwarven caravan is offering barrels of hamster blood and wombat blood, among others:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13090 [^] |
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Still present in 47.03, the only jobs that handle extracts from animals particularly are animal dissectors which as Quietust remarked in 0001044 c24799 the [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS] not using robust enough checks.
Dwarves have precedent to trade cave spider venom because they can extract it using the 'Extract from a dead animal' job in conjunction with a vial from trapped living cave spiders (the job's name is incorrect in this regard, perhaps referring to vermin small remains). The job also processes & butchers creepy crawlers, as to redeem seemingly any usable material or asset from the living vermin item without any kind of specified target. |
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