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0000093Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Itemspublic2010-04-01 21:462012-04-14 19:22
Toady One 
0000093: Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material (non-magma forges only?)
Still uses iron bars, but spontaneously produces gold flasks instead of iron. Has the normal properties of gold.
Make iron flasks in the metalsmith's forge.
iron, workshop
related to 0000221resolved Toady One Making leather waterskins actually produces no-material flasks 
related to 0002817resolved Toady One Making glass vials results in flasks of the wrong material 
parent of 0000754resolved Toady One Brass goblets are produced as Iron goblets. 
parent of 0000922resolved Toady One Smelting "Electrum Goblet" leads to "Gold goblet" 
parent of 0001051resolved Toady One Silver makes iron flasks 
parent of 0001509resolved Toady One Forging copper goblets yields gold goblets 
parent of 0002000resolved Toady One goblets turn into some type of when finished 
has duplicate 0000214closed Footkerchief Construction of Iron Goblets resulted in Gold Goblets 
has duplicate 0000815closed Footkerchief Creating Iron Vials results in Gold Vials 
has duplicate 0001352closed Footkerchief Forging platinum goblets yields iron goblets 
has duplicate 0001650closed Footkerchief Ordering a goblet, craft, or flask of any metal to be smelted creates an equivilant gold item 
has duplicate 0002466resolved Logical2u Dwarves have mastered alchemy 
has duplicate 0002537resolved Logical2u Producing silver goblets gives me iron goblets 
has duplicate 0002719resolved Footkerchief "Forge Brass Goblet" gives gold goblets. 
has duplicate 0002759resolved Footkerchief Ordered one got another 
related to 0002194resolved Toady One Leather Work Shop Always Makes Flasks. 
Issue History
2010-04-01 21:46Lightning4New Issue
2010-04-02 06:39TodestoolTag Attached: workshop
2010-04-02 07:29arcanerNote Added: 0000167
2010-04-02 13:04derigoNote Added: 0000276
2010-04-02 14:52AsmodeousNote Added: 0000298
2010-04-02 15:15Draco18sNote Added: 0000304
2010-04-02 15:36plenumNote Added: 0000309
2010-04-02 19:37UntelligentNote Added: 0000374
2010-04-02 19:41DwarfuTag Attached: iron
2010-04-03 11:15FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000214
2010-04-03 11:15FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: CyberGenesis
2010-04-03 12:58MooUKNote Added: 0000631
2010-04-03 15:11Draco18sNote Added: 0000678
2010-04-03 18:48dibujanteNote Added: 0000741
2010-04-04 02:40RiceMunkNote Added: 0000835
2010-04-04 10:33StebNote Added: 0000886
2010-04-06 22:40RelheunNote Added: 0001679
2010-04-07 17:22FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000754
2010-04-07 21:45Count DorkuNote Added: 0001934
2010-04-08 05:20ShurhaianNote Added: 0001997
2010-04-08 05:21ShurhaianNote Edited: 0001997bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0001997#r608
2010-04-08 13:22FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000815
2010-04-09 04:19Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-04-09 10:17FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000221
2010-04-09 16:33snus-mumrikNote Added: 0002454
2010-04-09 16:37FelbloodIssue Monitored: Felblood
2010-04-10 10:56FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000922
2010-04-11 13:59Kogan LoloklamNote Added: 0002875
2010-04-12 10:51FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001051
2010-04-12 10:53FootkerchiefSummaryCreate iron flask produces gold flasks => Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material
2010-04-12 11:03smjjamesNote Added: 0003087
2010-04-13 00:42Khym ChanurNote Added: 0003216
2010-04-13 01:13CyberGenesisIssue End Monitor: CyberGenesis
2010-04-14 00:52ShoobsNote Added: 0003423
2010-04-14 17:49kaefermelderNote Added: 0003585
2010-04-16 13:13MatsciNote Added: 0003892
2010-04-17 00:55BuryNote Added: 0003956
2010-04-17 00:55BuryNote Edited: 0003956bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003956#r1322
2010-04-19 18:58teetheringNote Added: 0004293
2010-04-19 19:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001352
2010-04-20 11:41ChristesNote Added: 0004362
2010-04-24 22:48lando242Note Added: 0004952
2010-04-25 02:12FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001509
2010-04-26 14:27rhsbscipioNote Added: 0005183
2010-04-28 14:06FootkerchiefCategoryGeneral => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Items
2010-04-29 03:31cswvnaNote Added: 0005649
2010-04-29 21:13FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001650
2010-05-08 10:08KavalionNote Added: 0006417
2010-05-13 09:34SkandrakenIssue Monitored: Skandraken
2010-05-20 20:00FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002000
2010-06-11 12:40ContiIssue Monitored: Conti
2010-06-11 14:48CelIssue Monitored: Cel
2010-06-11 15:23FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-06-11 17:26jfsNote Added: 0008166
2010-06-13 16:56Khym ChanurNote Added: 0008347
2010-06-13 17:17FootkerchiefSummaryFlasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material => Flasks/waterskins/goblets made of wrong material (non-magma forges only?)
2010-06-19 13:21KanddakIssue Monitored: Kanddak
2010-06-19 16:52madkNote Added: 0008737
2010-06-24 19:15Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002466
2010-06-25 10:32cephaloNote Added: 0009093
2010-07-01 17:22Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002537
2010-07-02 10:22slinkNote Added: 0009529
2010-07-14 09:44pontiuspirateNote Added: 0010241
2010-07-14 09:52JZEIssue Monitored: JZE
2010-07-14 09:57smjjamesNote Added: 0010242
2010-07-14 14:50pontiuspirateIssue Monitored: pontiuspirate
2010-07-15 01:07Toady OneRelationship replacedrelated to 0000221
2010-07-15 01:09Toady OneNote Added: 0010318
2010-07-15 01:09Toady OneStatusnew => resolved
2010-07-15 01:09Toady OneFixed in Version => 0.31.11
2010-07-15 01:09Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2010-07-15 01:09Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2010-07-15 04:56ContiIssue End Monitor: Conti
2010-07-15 05:57FootkerchiefSticky IssueYes => No
2010-07-16 05:18Khym ChanurIssue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2010-07-16 12:55FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002719
2010-07-18 22:30FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002759
2010-07-20 18:16FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002194
2010-07-24 19:40FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002817
2010-07-25 09:42CelIssue End Monitor: Cel
2012-04-14 19:22FelbloodIssue End Monitor: Felblood

2010-04-02 07:29   
I seem to recall in the forum thread that the reverse is also true. Metal smithing with gold bars produces iron objects.
2010-04-02 13:04   
creating steel goblets produces iron goblets, as well.
2010-04-02 14:52   
Smithing Platinum goblets also produces iron goblets, as well.
2010-04-02 15:15   
Obviously our dwarves have invented true alchemy!

What's lead turn into?
2010-04-02 15:36   
Didn't find alchemy in the jobs list. Another bug.
2010-04-02 19:37   
Alchemy is under Other, I think.
2010-04-03 12:58   
Similar: just asked for silver goblets, received iron.
2010-04-03 15:11   
Just tried this for myself, Iron Bars -> Iron Goblets, Iron Flasks, and all other crafts.
2010-04-03 18:48   
Creating platinum goblets makes iron goblets :(
2010-04-04 02:40   
Possibly related is that if you look at the (z)status screen's stone allocations, a lot of the ores (gold, silver and platinum nuggets included) seem to have a "make sharp blades" property attached to them in addition to smelting foo bars and such. It wasn't like this in the old versions of DF.
2010-04-04 10:33   
"make rock sword" can now use a variety of materials as well as obsidian, many of them are native metal ores
2010-04-06 22:40   
I don't know if its related, but I tried forging gold goblets and got sandstone mugs instead; trying to make fine pewter flasks produced siltstone flasks.
Count Dorku   
2010-04-07 21:45   
I have the most expensive alchemy yet.

Adamantine Wafers -> Iron Goblets. (After attempting to make platinum goblets failed miserably, I thought I'd try a different material - and I'd just found the adamantine.)

Oddly, platinum produces platinum crafts just fine, the issue seems to be with goblets.
2010-04-08 05:20   
(edited on: 2010-04-08 05:21)
Could this be related to 0000112 or vice versa? Just by the fact that reaction material products seem to be rather buggered for some specific craft reactions, and what seems to be happening there is all the material options being listed with identical titles. Something like that going on with goblets might help to explain the seemingly semirandom behaviour of that.

2010-04-09 16:33   
Yes, same bug. Copper bars > gold goblets.
Kogan Loloklam   
2010-04-11 13:59   
I attempted to make Platinum flasks. These turned into gold flasks.
2010-04-12 11:03   
Heck of alot of alchemy going on here.....
Khym Chanur   
2010-04-13 00:42   
With 0.31.02, I've tasked the creation of gold, silver, and tin goblets, and always got what I asked for. I'm running DF under Wine on Linux, in case that makes a difference.
2010-04-14 00:52   
I would like to make a note on "make sharp blades".
They can be made from wood now.
2010-04-14 17:49   
31.03 still makes iron flasks from nickel bars here
2010-04-16 13:13   
Attempted to make Silver Goblets, Got Gold. Attempted to make Zinc Goblets, Got iron.
2010-04-17 00:55   
I've tried gold, platinum, electrum, silver and always get iron goblets(31.03). Flasks also have this problem but as mentioned above crafts are ok.

2010-04-19 18:58   
yep just ordered gold goblets got iron instead.

also, ordered leather flasks and got material-less flasks. no description of what it's made of, just says flask.
2010-04-20 11:41   
Yep, attempting to make zinc and lead goblets gives me iron goblets. This is 31.03
2010-04-24 22:48   
Used my only trifle pewter bar to make some goblets for a demand, got 3 iron goblets in return. Shazbot. Running Mayday's version of 31.03 with no other mods installed.
2010-04-26 14:27   
5 metal bar types I have tried resulted in gold goblets. Multiple tries with copper result in the same every time. (Nickel Silver, Lead, Electrum, Copper, and Tin all tried, same result.)
2010-04-29 03:31   
I tried forging silver, lead, copper, brass, zinc, and billon into goblets with charcoal (coke was forbidden) and produced all gold goblets. Then I forbade charcoal and used coke for another set of the same six metals in the same game at the same forge, and produced all iron goblets.

I have not tried this with magma. Can someone verify these results?
2010-05-08 10:08   
Making Steel Flasks produced Iron Flasks for me.
2010-06-11 17:26   
Any chance this is also related to artifacts made of bone turning into iron?
Khym Chanur   
2010-06-13 16:56   
Looks like it's a problem with non-magma forges. With 0.31.06 (native Linux) I had both a magma forge and a regular forge (fueled with coke) in the same game. I ordered gold goblets at each: the magma forge made gold goblets, the regular forge made iron goblets.
2010-06-19 16:52   
Same issue here.
2010-06-25 10:32   
gold flasks from copper bars here.
2010-07-02 10:22   
Electrum goblets turned out to be iron. Too bad, because it is a mandate. :( I was using a coke forge. 31.08 SDL.
2010-07-14 09:44   
v0.31.10, no modifications - I have attempted forging goblets out of the following materials, and each resulted in iron: Silver, Platinum, Lead, Nickel, Zinc, Brass, Bronze, Rose Gold, and Iron
2010-07-14 09:57   
You know, since the shell/bone artifacts turning into iron bug ( 0000359 ) is fixed in .11, maybe Toady could check whether this one is fixed. Thats if whatever was causing the bug with the artifacts is the same as the one here.
Toady One   
2010-07-15 01:09   
This should be fixed for 0.31.11. It wasn't the same cause as the artifact/shell bugs, but I found it and cleaned it up. It wasn't clearing the fuel properly, and that randomized the material depending on what mods/OS you are on.