0001140: "Clean" job uses underground/aboveground instead of inside/outside to determine what gets cleaned

Notes
(0004671) DKS (reporter) 2010-04-22 21:21	This may be part of a larger problem; dumping items that are inside but above ground seems to requires the Gather refuse from Outside option is turned on. I suspect that the game treats above ground as outside.

(0004675) derigo (reporter) 2010-04-22 22:18	@op That sounds about right, but it's not all their is to it. There's lots and lots of blood inside my fortress, deep underground that has been around for years and hasn't been cleaned. I agree, tiles outside never ever get cleaned, but there's some other weirdness going on too. @DKS Above ground _is_ outside. Ever since DF went 3d, once a tile is exposed to sunlight, it is permanently 'lighted' and while it may say 'inside' on inspection, dwarves treat it as outdoors for the purposes of refuse orders and whatnot. This is nothing new.

(0004682) Cryten (reporter) 2010-04-22 23:29	What Derigo said is basicly evertything, the game uses a ray tracing system to detwmine the z level of any tile where light stops and roofs dont stop that. I believe its this system that causes the prpgram to think anything lit is outside.

(0005763) hyndis (reporter) 2010-04-30 12:48	Works the same as in 40D, except in 31.03 blood/vomit is no longer removed at the turn of each season. This means that with no one cleaning it, all above ground tiles are doomed to be forever covered in a sea of blood that will get tracked around your fortress. Rain and snow will destroy blood/vomit if it hits that specific tile, but this will not help above ground buildings, such as castles that have rooms that are light but indoors.

(0005893) WFrag (reporter) 2010-05-01 21:54	I think, with new caverns concept, there should be another mechanism to mark tile for cleaning. I don’t want my dwarfs to clean caverns, but want them to clean their nice constructed houses (which are full of blood). Maybe there should be an option to mark burrow for cleaning? Or at least dwarfs should clean inside/above ground as well.

(0005894) WFrag (reporter) 2010-05-01 21:55	Umm, well, designating area for cleaning would be fine, too :)

(0005926) hyndis (reporter) 2010-05-02 09:31	A setting under options would probably be ideal, such as in the refuse section. Blood spatter is a kind of refuse, so it would make sense there. Cleaning everywhere/aboveground/belowground/off Cleaning Priority high/medium/low Even underground cleaning is by default an extremely low priority task. If you could adjust where dwarves clean and also bump up the priority, with high priority being the same priority as any other workshop/mining/hauling job, you could have dwarves tidy up large sections of the map very efficiently to remove the spatter problems.

(0017014) Kogut (reporter) 2011-04-03 11:40	Still in .25

(0029041) Loci (manager) 2014-08-14 12:17	Settings which claim to use "Inside/Outside" still actually use "Above ground/Subterranean" in 40.08. In particular, refuse hauling from "Inside, Above Ground" is controlled by the "Outside" refuse hauling standing order (see 0008008).

(0030166) Toady One (administrator) 2014-09-13 12:06 edited on: 2014-09-13 12:08	I've changed the confusing label. Further actual functionality will wait until I get to some cleaning suggestions. edit: Given 0002626, perhaps it is best to go with Inside after all.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-14 05:40	Deathworks	New Issue
2010-04-14 06:46	Deathworks	Tag Attached: Cleaning
2010-04-14 08:55	Footkerchief	Summary	"Clean" job uses wrong categorization it seems => "Clean" job uses underground/aboveground instead of inside/outside to determine what gets cleaned
2010-04-22 21:21	DKS	Note Added: 0004671
2010-04-22 22:18	derigo	Note Added: 0004675
2010-04-22 23:29	Cryten	Note Added: 0004682
2010-04-30 12:48	hyndis	Note Added: 0005763
2010-05-01 21:54	WFrag	Note Added: 0005893
2010-05-01 21:55	WFrag	Note Added: 0005894
2010-05-01 21:58	WFrag	Issue Monitored: WFrag
2010-05-02 09:31	hyndis	Note Added: 0005926
2010-05-02 09:50	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-07-07 17:51	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000425
2010-07-07 17:52	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	child of 0000425
2010-07-11 10:27	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0002626
2010-07-12 12:03	Footkerchief	Tag Renamed	Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?
2010-07-18 13:31	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0002626
2010-07-20 15:28	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0002626
2010-11-16 13:47	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003278
2010-11-17 09:02	Khym Chanur	Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-11-22 20:42	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003717
2011-04-03 11:40	Kogut	Note Added: 0017014
2012-02-22 08:21	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0005380
2014-01-27 19:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003172
2014-01-27 19:07	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0003278
2014-08-14 12:17	Loci	Note Added: 0029041
2014-09-13 12:06	Toady One	Note Added: 0030166
2014-09-13 12:06	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2014-09-13 12:06	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-09-13 12:06	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-09-13 12:06	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2014-09-13 12:06	Toady One	Tag Detached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-09-13 12:08	Toady One	Note Edited: 0030166	View Revisions