0011456: can start with tools made from wool

(0040357)
PatrikLundell (reporter)
2020-03-11 23:30

I checked a world of mine, and saw the same thing for pre embark tool selection (haven't checked adventure mode). 0.47.04 Win64.

(0040358)
Huntthetroll (reporter)
2020-03-12 11:33

May be related to 0011408, another bug caused by failure to cull inappropriate materials.

(0040372)
SammyLiimex (reporter)
2020-03-15 22:26

Dwarves should be allowed to have a set of fuzzy dice

(0040876)
chaosvolt (reporter)
2021-01-24 17:57
edited on: 2021-01-24 18:49

This one's actually trivial, hair template has [ITEMS_HARD] for some insane reason. That doesn't preclude the possibility that the [HARD_MAT] tool token might also be bugged, but fixing the material template would be a sane start.

Even then I'd strongly advise phasing out any further uses of [HARD_MAT] in favor of [BONE_MAT], [CERAMIC_MAT], [METAL_MAT], etc as needed, since it'd be the most futureproof way to prevent something weird like this from re-occurring.

Doesn't help with fixing the hardcoded items like mugs, but it's a start at least.

EDIT 2: Tested whether the inclusion of CERAMIC_MAT makes the reactions for producing clay tools obsolete, they'll still be needed it seems.

(0040877)
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2021-01-25 03:52

In a similar [ITEMS_HARD] way, bones, teeth and ivory alike have some strange relations to having importable goblets (ox horn goblets etc) which can't be created on site from the craftshop or the manager screen and are classed in a non-descript way compared to stone, glass etc.

(0040879)
Ziusudra (reporter)
2021-01-25 16:44

So, why aren't there bone dice? Bone has [ITEMS_HARD]. Is it because bone also has [BONE]?

There really should be bone dice.

(0040883)
chaosvolt (reporter)
2021-01-28 14:52

Same reason you can't embark with bone or shell armor despite being able to make them in the craft workshop, I'm guessing?

(0041150)
Quietust (reporter)
2021-09-20 05:11

Notes
(0040357) PatrikLundell (reporter) 2020-03-11 23:30	I checked a world of mine, and saw the same thing for pre embark tool selection (haven't checked adventure mode). 0.47.04 Win64.

(0040358) Huntthetroll (reporter) 2020-03-12 11:33	May be related to 0011408, another bug caused by failure to cull inappropriate materials.

(0040372) SammyLiimex (reporter) 2020-03-15 22:26	Dwarves should be allowed to have a set of fuzzy dice

(0040876) chaosvolt (reporter) 2021-01-24 17:57 edited on: 2021-01-24 18:49	This one's actually trivial, hair template has [ITEMS_HARD] for some insane reason. That doesn't preclude the possibility that the [HARD_MAT] tool token might also be bugged, but fixing the material template would be a sane start. Even then I'd strongly advise phasing out any further uses of [HARD_MAT] in favor of [BONE_MAT], [CERAMIC_MAT], [METAL_MAT], etc as needed, since it'd be the most futureproof way to prevent something weird like this from re-occurring. Doesn't help with fixing the hardcoded items like mugs, but it's a start at least. EDIT 2: Tested whether the inclusion of CERAMIC_MAT makes the reactions for producing clay tools obsolete, they'll still be needed it seems.

(0040877) FantasticDorf (reporter) 2021-01-25 03:52	In a similar [ITEMS_HARD] way, bones, teeth and ivory alike have some strange relations to having importable goblets (ox horn goblets etc) which can't be created on site from the craftshop or the manager screen and are classed in a non-descript way compared to stone, glass etc.

(0040879) Ziusudra (reporter) 2021-01-25 16:44	So, why aren't there bone dice? Bone has [ITEMS_HARD]. Is it because bone also has [BONE]? There really should be bone dice.

(0040883) chaosvolt (reporter) 2021-01-28 14:52	Same reason you can't embark with bone or shell armor despite being able to make them in the craft workshop, I'm guessing?

(0041150) Quietust (reporter) 2021-09-20 05:11	See also 0003736

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2020-03-11 19:27	Ziusudra	New Issue
2020-03-11 23:30	PatrikLundell	Note Added: 0040357
2020-03-12 11:33	Huntthetroll	Note Added: 0040358
2020-03-15 22:26	SammyLiimex	Note Added: 0040372
2021-01-24 17:57	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0040876
2021-01-24 17:57	chaosvolt	Issue Monitored: chaosvolt
2021-01-24 18:28	chaosvolt	Note Edited: 0040876	View Revisions
2021-01-24 18:49	chaosvolt	Note Edited: 0040876	View Revisions
2021-01-25 03:52	FantasticDorf	Note Added: 0040877
2021-01-25 16:44	Ziusudra	Note Added: 0040879
2021-01-28 14:52	chaosvolt	Note Added: 0040883
2021-09-20 05:11	Quietust	Note Added: 0041150

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