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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0001501Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Interface, Tradepublic2010-04-24 18:162011-02-25 02:55
Assigned ToDwarfu 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.03 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001501: Finished goods are missing from the "Bring to Depot" screen and cage traps aren't being refilled.
DescriptionI'm not really sure if these two things are related, but they seem to be.

I have a gargantuan number of crafts stored in bins fairly close to my trade depots (after the elven caravan failed to leave before the humans showed up this year, I decided to build 3 depots), but when I went to transfer my finished goods to the trade depot, it only found 6 bins of finished goods in the crafts section. After those 6 bins had been brought up, I looked back at the craft pile and there were at least 100 more finished goods bins in the stockpile, most of them packed full of stuff. After checking all 3 trade depots to see if there was a difference between them (there was none), I gave up and did a smaller trade than I'd like.

I build large numbers of cage traps at the entrances to my fortress, and they've been very helpful so far. Unfortunately, several of my cage traps (6 at one entrance, 1 at another) have been sitting empty for quite some time now. There are many empty cages in my stockpile and a large number of idling dwarves, so I can't see any reason that they wouldn't be reloaded, except possibly as another facet of whatever it is that caused the previous difficulty.
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Attached Files

- Relationships
duplicate of 0001173resolvedToady One Dwarves refuse to haul accessible items until they've hauled ones that are currently inaccessible 

-  Notes
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-25 02:10

This may be related to pathfinding problems. If you try to build walls etc. in various locations around your fortress, do you get negative distances to building materials as per 0001137?
Yiab (reporter)
2010-04-25 09:05

No, I've never seen a negative distance. My finished goods stockpile is 5 floors down from my trade depots and there is a 3x3 stairway leading directly there. One floor below the depot, there are also 3 other sets of stairs leading to the depot level, but I wouldn't expect multiple equally short paths to confuse it that much.
smjjames (reporter)
2010-04-25 09:07

Regarding the finished goods, did you toggle cull mandates/ignore mandates?
Yiab (reporter)
2010-04-25 09:37

I did not touch the mandates button - I'm an idiot. I didn't realize that "m:culling on mandates" meant "this setting currently imposes a culling on mandates, press m to change this fact."

Also, the two problems were not related - the cage trap problem was solved when I unblocked the door I had in place to keep people from auto-reclaiming stones from my catapult training range - there were several hundred unforbidden stones in there, so everybody was waiting for those in order to do any hauling jobs.
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-25 13:36

Good call smjjames.

The cage trap thing sounds odd -- it's a known bug that items can get invisibly tied up by impossible hauling jobs (0001267), but if dwarves are getting similarly tied up, that's really weird. There are also some indications (0000828) that cage hauling is generally screwy.

What exactly happened with the stones? Did they haul all the stones first and then reload the cage traps?
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-08-27 01:48

Reminder sent to: Yiab

Are you able to reproduce the cage trap problem in a current version (31.12 and above), do you have a save to upload or can you provide any further information?
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-12-08 07:20
edited on: 2011-02-25 02:55

Since the cage trape and culling issues were resolved by the user and without further details from Yiab, I'm going to conclude that the unforbidden but no-path-to stone problem is a dupe of 0001173.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-24 18:16 Yiab New Issue
2010-04-25 02:10 Footkerchief Note Added: 0004966
2010-04-25 02:11 Footkerchief Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-25 09:05 Yiab Note Added: 0004994
2010-04-25 09:07 smjjames Note Added: 0004995
2010-04-25 09:37 Yiab Note Added: 0005003
2010-04-25 13:36 Footkerchief Note Added: 0005029
2010-08-27 01:48 Dwarfu Note Added: 0012129
2010-08-27 01:48 Dwarfu Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-12-08 07:20 Dwarfu Note Added: 0014453
2010-12-08 07:20 Dwarfu Relationship added duplicate of 0001267
2010-12-08 07:20 Dwarfu Status new => resolved
2010-12-08 07:20 Dwarfu Resolution open => duplicate
2010-12-08 07:20 Dwarfu Assigned To => Dwarfu
2010-12-08 07:20 Dwarfu Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-25 02:55 Dwarfu Note Edited: 0014453 View Revisions
2011-02-25 02:55 Dwarfu Relationship deleted 0001267
2011-02-25 02:55 Dwarfu Relationship added duplicate of 0001173

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