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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0001669Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Equipmentpublic2010-05-01 03:162014-10-03 02:22
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PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
PlatformAMD Duron (1GHz)OSWindows XPOS VersionSP2
Product Version0.31.03 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001669: Butchered Crundle scales (maybe others) cannot be tanned
DescriptionI butchered several Crundles and their scales are just sitting around in the butcher's shop. The tanner isn't doing anything with them, and when I queue "Tan a Hide" in the jobs, they cancel it ("Needs unrotten raw body part"). So they're not even recognizing the scales as valid hide.

The DF Wiki indicates that scales and chitin should operate the same way as normal skin, so why is it that I can't tan scales?
Steps To Reproduce - Kill and butcher Crundles, presumably other creatures that leave scales behind.
 - Watch your dwarves do NOTHING with the scales.
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Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0001160new Chitin is now useless? 
related to 0000434resolvedToady One Reaction jobs (unlike other jobs) don't look outside burrow for workers and raw materials (works through manager) 
related to 0004506acknowledgedToady One Cave lobsters produce no shell when processed 
has duplicate 0004747resolvedFootkerchief Soap making can't use tallow left in kitchen 
related to 0003352resolvedToady One Animal hair has no use 
related to 0003222new Alligators have no skin, only scales 

-  Notes
Logical2u (manager)
2010-05-01 05:26

This is almost a straight up duplicate, but I'm going to leave it open for now since the main issue is scales rather than chitin.
clamity (reporter)
2010-05-03 18:38

A side note: I am unable to butcher crundles in a vanilla fortress... did you have to do something to get them to be butcher-able? or am I experiencing a different bug?
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-24 00:05

Reminder sent to: Stungun

Was your tannery in a burrow? If so, this is 0000434.
Stungun (reporter)
2010-07-24 00:31

Yes, it was in a burrow, but it shouldn't have made any difference, even considering 0000434 -- because that same burrow was a "Curfew" burrow that I'd set to envelop the entire inside of the fortress, including the garbage dump (yes I did make sure to unforbid the scales), the remains stockpile, and the butcher's shop; my guys had no problem with eagerly grabbing up deer hide and making leather out of it. Essentially said burrow was a way to get all my civilians indoors in case of a siege, after which I'd pull two levers to pull my bridge shut and seal off the only ways in. I just deleted the burrow (as I haven't had to use it in eons), and it's making no difference so far.
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-24 08:33

Hmm. It would be helpful to upload your save to [^]
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-08-19 01:43

Here's a save zoomed to the refuse stockpile: unusable feathers, nails and scales. [^]
Skivverus (reporter)
2010-10-24 16:43

Have also seen unusable crundle scales, [random bird] feathers, and [random animal] hair in 0.31.16; no burrows used at all, except one for the trade depot which is only used when the fortress has visitors. Doesn't get tanned, can't be used as shell/ivory/horn/etc. at the craftsdwarf workshops, and clutters up the butcher shop to an annoying degree.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-05-01 03:16 Stungun New Issue
2010-05-01 05:25 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0001160
2010-05-01 05:26 Logical2u Note Added: 0005813
2010-05-03 18:38 clamity Note Added: 0006059
2010-05-03 18:43 clamity Issue Monitored: clamity
2010-07-24 00:05 Footkerchief Note Added: 0010896
2010-07-24 00:05 Footkerchief Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-24 00:31 Stungun Note Added: 0010901
2010-07-24 08:33 Footkerchief Note Added: 0010910
2010-07-24 08:34 Footkerchief Relationship added child of 0000434
2010-08-19 01:43 Dwarfu Note Added: 0011910
2010-08-19 01:43 Dwarfu Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-08-19 01:43 Dwarfu Tag Attached: Save Included
2010-10-24 16:43 Skivverus Note Added: 0013498
2010-12-09 08:13 Footkerchief Relationship replaced related to 0000434
2010-12-09 08:14 Footkerchief Relationship replaced related to 0001160
2010-12-26 14:23 Dwarfu Relationship added related to 0003352
2011-07-28 10:19 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0004747
2013-03-04 02:29 Dwarfu Relationship added related to 0003222
2014-01-26 11:05 Footkerchief Relationship replaced has duplicate 0004747
2014-01-26 11:05 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0004506
2014-10-03 02:22 wRAR Issue Monitored: wRAR

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