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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update | ||||||
| 0001849 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Justice | public | 2010-05-12 16:09 | 2010-05-13 03:45 | ||||||
| Reporter | Jiri Petru | ||||||||||
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| Priority | low | Severity | trivial | Reproducibility | have not tried | ||||||
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||||||||
| Platform | OS | OS Version | |||||||||
| Product Version | 0.31.03 | ||||||||||
| Target Version | Fixed in Version | ||||||||||
| Summary | 0001849: Tantruming dwarf killed a pet cat, got sentenced for "murder" | ||||||||||
| Description | The title says it all. It's bordering on the line of feature, but feels buggy enough. The sentence was 200 or 260 days, I don't recall it precisely. I guess it's one of the following cases: - The game doesn't make a difference between killing a dwarf and killing a pet. Considering dwarves have [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE], this seems wrong. Possibly, pets are not treated as animals, but as [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER]. OR - The game does make the difference (I'm not sure the sentence for dwarf killing isn't 1000 days or something), but calls even pet-killing a murder. This is confusing. | ||||||||||
| Additional Information | IIRC, this bug is as old as the game itself. | ||||||||||
| Tags | Intentional/Expected? | ||||||||||
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(0006616) Logical2u (manager) 2010-05-12 16:35 |
Killing a tame animal counts as murder according to the Dwarf Wiki, from 40d. Ethic:Kill_Animal probably counts towards WILD animals, and tame animals are counted as civ critters, I think - pets are given names, for example. For example, elves have "Ethic:Kill_animal" as self-defense, which reflects their world-gen/in game behaviour. You may also have to consider "Ethic:Torture_Animal". I'm leaning towards "not a bug" but rather "not necessarily intuitive/well described feature". I hope someone more versed in the ethics system will be able to fill any blanks. |
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(0006631) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-05-13 03:45 |
Yeah, it might also be the [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]. But if it is, it shouldn't be described as a "murder". I'm not necessarily saying the sencence it too high - just that the "muder" is a confusing description. |
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| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
| 2010-05-12 16:09 | Jiri Petru | New Issue | |
| 2010-05-12 16:35 | Logical2u | Note Added: 0006616 | |
| 2010-05-13 00:56 | Footkerchief | Tag Attached: Intentional? | |
| 2010-05-13 03:45 | Jiri Petru | Note Added: 0006631 | |
| 2010-07-12 12:03 | Footkerchief | Tag Renamed | Intentional? => Intentional/Expected? |
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