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|0001849||Dwarf Fortress||Dwarf Mode -- Justice||public||2010-05-12 16:09||2010-05-13 03:45|
|Priority||low||Severity||trivial||Reproducibility||have not tried|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version|
|Summary||0001849: Tantruming dwarf killed a pet cat, got sentenced for "murder"|
|Description||The title says it all. It's bordering on the line of feature, but feels buggy enough.|
The sentence was 200 or 260 days, I don't recall it precisely. I guess it's one of the following cases:
- The game doesn't make a difference between killing a dwarf and killing a pet. Considering dwarves have [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE], this seems wrong. Possibly, pets are not treated as animals, but as [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER].
- The game does make the difference (I'm not sure the sentence for dwarf killing isn't 1000 days or something), but calls even pet-killing a murder. This is confusing.
|Additional Information||IIRC, this bug is as old as the game itself.|
Killing a tame animal counts as murder according to the Dwarf Wiki, from 40d.
Ethic:Kill_Animal probably counts towards WILD animals, and tame animals are counted as civ critters, I think - pets are given names, for example. For example, elves have "Ethic:Kill_animal" as self-defense, which reflects their world-gen/in game behaviour.
You may also have to consider "Ethic:Torture_Animal".
I'm leaning towards "not a bug" but rather "not necessarily intuitive/well described feature". I hope someone more versed in the ethics system will be able to fill any blanks.
Jiri Petru (reporter)
Yeah, it might also be the [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE].
But if it is, it shouldn't be described as a "murder". I'm not necessarily saying the sencence it too high - just that the "muder" is a confusing description.
|2010-05-12 16:09||Jiri Petru||New Issue|
|2010-05-12 16:35||Logical2u||Note Added: 0006616|
|2010-05-13 00:56||Footkerchief||Tag Attached: Intentional?|
|2010-05-13 03:45||Jiri Petru||Note Added: 0006631|
|2010-07-12 12:03||Footkerchief||Tag Renamed||Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?|
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