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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0004311Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Interface, Announcements: Message Spampublic2011-03-23 10:532024-01-15 12:39
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
PlatformOSOSXOS Version
Product Version0.31.21 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004311: Dwarf cancels Collect Hive Products: Job item lost or destroyed....x1116 and still rising...
DescriptionAnnouncement spam as in title. Hive Products remain uncollected.
Additional InformationI don't really know what kind of peculiar circumstances caused this one, but I've uploaded a save of a few seconds before about 150 more copies of the message are generated: [^]
TagsNo tags attached.
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- Relationships
related to 0003981resolvedToady One Having multiple active beekeepers causes dwarves with "Installing Colony in Hive" Job to become stuck 

-  Notes
Quietust (reporter)
2011-03-23 11:31

Did you accidentally forbid the hive and/or its products?
Dwarfu (manager)
2011-03-23 13:09

The products are available (the job zooms to the hive). Pathing appears ok.

It looks as though all of your containers for gathering are already full. You are also making a lot of bins, but it seems everything is already hauled and not tasked, so they should be available. There is only an unglazed one, so maybe she is trying to use that. Forbidding and reclaiming all of them doesn't seem to help.

It is impossible to tell which object she is trying to use because the job is instantly taken and canceled on a step '.'

Only way I could get it to stop was to deconstruct that particular hive the job was using.

I waited for another hive to become full of wax and jelly, but no job was generated until I made some more jugs (wooden). The job was generated and taken and completed.

Something got confused with the jugs. There is rock nut oil in a couple of them, perhaps the jobs both tagged the same jug for use.
hyperactiveChipmunk (reporter)
2011-03-24 10:02

So perhaps the presence of the oil in the jugs is not preventing the job from being created/assigned, but is preventing it from being carried out?

Thanks for the insights. I deconstructed the hive to silence it, too, but now that there seems to be some sense behind the madness, I'll be able to make some attempts to reproduce the behavior. I was completely at a loss for an explanation, originally.
Toady One (administrator)
2014-08-07 13:23

I tried this under a few circumstances and couldn't get it to happen. We'll see what the status is in 0.40.07 now that beekeeping should be a little more workable in general.
UristErrant86 (reporter)
2014-09-22 20:11

I've had this same issue in 40.12 and am uploading a save to the file depot labeled with the issue number.
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-23 12:16

UristErrant86, it's easier if you post the link here like so: [^]
UristErrant86 (reporter)
2014-09-27 11:18

Thanks, Footkerchief, I'll remember that in the future. I just wanted to mention that I've discovered that it's possible to identify the hive that is generating the spam by using (t) to look into the hives until you find one containing a jug. Somehow, the jug appears to get "stuck" in the hive, preventing collection. Deconstruction of that hive stops the spam.
Laureeeeeeeeeeeeeeen (reporter)
2022-12-15 10:19

Same issue on the Steam version.
Used T to identify the problem hive as per UristErrant86's advice, though it did not have a jug stuck in it.
I simply disallowed collecting products from that hive, I have many hives so it isn't an issue.
eGrawlix (reporter)
2024-01-15 12:39

Same issue on the current (Jan 2024) Steam version.

I can't identify any hive with any jugs stuck in it. I do have plenty of empty jugs ready for use that are not being used for the job.

I did however find a note on the wiki ( [^] ) that led me to find I have several jugs filled with honey and/or royal jelly that are sitting in my finished goods bins. Could honey/jelly jugs placed into finished goods bins instead of food piles perhaps be a source of this bug?

My beekeepers were working correctly up until a trade caravan arrived (I think. It may just be coincidental timing of course). When it arrived I know I moved all my finished goods bins to the trade depot. The wiki ( [^] ) suggests moving finished goods bins containing honey jugs may disrupt jobs. The bins were moved back to the finished goods pile several in-game months ago, but the beekeeping cancellation spam continues and the hives remain untended. Could honey/jelly jugs moved around while contained in finished goods bins perhaps be a source of this bug?

I hope these ideas may provide some hints about how to reproduce this bug if nothing else.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-03-23 10:53 hyperactiveChipmunk New Issue
2011-03-23 11:31 Quietust Note Added: 0016497
2011-03-23 13:09 Dwarfu Note Added: 0016499
2011-03-23 13:11 Dwarfu Relationship added related to 0004191
2011-03-24 10:02 hyperactiveChipmunk Note Added: 0016517
2011-04-05 07:36 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0003981
2011-04-05 07:36 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0004191
2011-04-05 07:37 Footkerchief Relationship replaced child of 0003981
2014-08-07 13:23 Toady One Note Added: 0028537
2014-08-07 13:23 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2014-08-07 13:23 Toady One Status new => needs feedback
2014-08-07 13:24 Toady One Relationship replaced related to 0003981
2014-09-22 20:11 UristErrant86 Note Added: 0030326
2014-09-23 12:16 Footkerchief Note Added: 0030330
2014-09-23 12:19 Footkerchief Status needs feedback => confirmed
2014-09-27 11:18 UristErrant86 Note Added: 0030403
2022-12-15 10:19 Laureeeeeeeeeeeeeeen Note Added: 0041356
2024-01-15 12:39 eGrawlix Note Added: 0041379

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