0001589: Constructed walls/floors do not block light

(0005427)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-04-27 16:32
edited on: 2010-04-27 16:32

This is quite an old issue, dating back to before 40d.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24537.msg276033#msg276033, [^] for example.

(0005428)
Tomato (reporter)
2010-04-27 16:38

still a feature, otherwise we wouldn't be able to build greenhouses

(0005431)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-04-27 16:50

Since Toady hasn't commented on similar issues in the past (based on what I can find), it's debatable as to whether it's a bug or a feature.

(0005447)
Vector_Matt (reporter)
2010-04-27 17:57
edited on: 2010-04-27 18:35

Ideally, glass floors would allow light through while others wouldn't. Currently the reward/effort ratio for this is too low to be worth it since there's no benefit to having 'dark' tiles (none that I'm aware of anyway).

Posted a related suggestion thread here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55763 [^]

(0005449)
derigo (reporter)
2010-04-27 19:09

This has been the case ever since rewalling was first added. Its not intentional, but its unimportant and apparently a pain to fix.

(0005458)
jgoodwin (reporter)
2010-04-27 20:37

Starting outside, I dug a downward stairway, then one level down and up/down stairway. Later I built a floor over the downward stairway to close off that entrance. The cell that is the up/down stairway immediately beneath the floored-over downward stair is now "Inside Dark Subterranean", so I don't think things are exactly the same as they used to be. It used to be the rule was once-lit then forever-outside.

It may be that stairs now work differently than channeling.

(0005463)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-27 20:58
edited on: 2010-04-27 21:08

Once a tile is changed to above ground, it is always above ground.

Constructed floor tiles do not block light, creating a weird greenhouse effect. This issue is well known behavior from 40d.

Constructed walls (instead of floors) should make your tile dark again if desired.

>>>jgoodwin Interesting, I quickly verified this one. Be interesting to see if there's any other new quirks like this.

(0019620)
reddit (reporter)
2012-02-15 05:01

I really wish this would be fixed as it's quite an important advantage (that you shouldn't have) and also quite ruining in terms of immersion, IMHO.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-27 16:17	Vector_Matt	New Issue
2010-04-27 16:21	Vector_Matt	Tag Attached: floor
2010-04-27 16:21	Vector_Matt	Tag Attached: light
2010-04-27 16:26	Vector_Matt	Tag Attached: wall
2010-04-27 16:32	Logical2u	Note Added: 0005427
2010-04-27 16:32	Logical2u	Note Edited: 0005427	View Revisions
2010-04-27 16:38	Tomato	Note Added: 0005428
2010-04-27 16:50	Logical2u	Note Added: 0005431
2010-04-27 17:23	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-04-27 17:57	Vector_Matt	Note Added: 0005447
2010-04-27 17:57	Vector_Matt	Note Edited: 0005447	View Revisions
2010-04-27 18:35	Vector_Matt	Note Edited: 0005447	View Revisions
2010-04-27 19:09	derigo	Note Added: 0005449
2010-04-27 20:37	jgoodwin	Note Added: 0005458
2010-04-27 20:37	jgoodwin	Issue Monitored: jgoodwin
2010-04-27 20:58	DoctorZuber	Note Added: 0005463
2010-04-27 21:00	DoctorZuber	Note Edited: 0005463	View Revisions
2010-04-27 21:08	DoctorZuber	Note Edited: 0005463	View Revisions
2010-04-28 14:00	Footkerchief	Category	General => Dwarf Mode -- Environment
2010-04-30 07:27	Logical2u	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001654
2010-07-12 12:03	Footkerchief	Tag Renamed	Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?
2012-02-15 05:01	reddit	Note Added: 0019620

Notes
(0005427) Logical2u (manager) 2010-04-27 16:32 edited on: 2010-04-27 16:32	This is quite an old issue, dating back to before 40d. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24537.msg276033#msg276033, [^] for example.

(0005428) Tomato (reporter) 2010-04-27 16:38	still a feature, otherwise we wouldn't be able to build greenhouses

(0005431) Logical2u (manager) 2010-04-27 16:50	Since Toady hasn't commented on similar issues in the past (based on what I can find), it's debatable as to whether it's a bug or a feature.

(0005447) Vector_Matt (reporter) 2010-04-27 17:57 edited on: 2010-04-27 18:35	Ideally, glass floors would allow light through while others wouldn't. Currently the reward/effort ratio for this is too low to be worth it since there's no benefit to having 'dark' tiles (none that I'm aware of anyway). Posted a related suggestion thread here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55763 [^]

(0005449) derigo (reporter) 2010-04-27 19:09	This has been the case ever since rewalling was first added. Its not intentional, but its unimportant and apparently a pain to fix.

(0005458) jgoodwin (reporter) 2010-04-27 20:37	Starting outside, I dug a downward stairway, then one level down and up/down stairway. Later I built a floor over the downward stairway to close off that entrance. The cell that is the up/down stairway immediately beneath the floored-over downward stair is now "Inside Dark Subterranean", so I don't think things are exactly the same as they used to be. It used to be the rule was once-lit then forever-outside. It may be that stairs now work differently than channeling.

(0005463) DoctorZuber (reporter) 2010-04-27 20:58 edited on: 2010-04-27 21:08	Once a tile is changed to above ground, it is always above ground. Constructed floor tiles do not block light, creating a weird greenhouse effect. This issue is well known behavior from 40d. Constructed walls (instead of floors) should make your tile dark again if desired. >>>jgoodwin Interesting, I quickly verified this one. Be interesting to see if there's any other new quirks like this.

(0019620) reddit (reporter) 2012-02-15 05:01	I really wish this would be fixed as it's quite an important advantage (that you shouldn't have) and also quite ruining in terms of immersion, IMHO.