0001513: Militia with clothing assigned as equipment leave it in piles on the floor randomly

(0004960)
derigo (reporter)
2010-04-25 01:12

more notes, uniform is set on 'replace clothing,' 'exact match,' squad is set to stay uniformed when off duty. This seems to happen when taking a squad off active station or, canceling a kill order (causing them to go civie), but it also seems to happen when they get sleepy hungry or thirsty enough to leave their post (they don't go civie in this case), or when they stop training(off-duty training, idk about on-duty training because I don't use it because it doesn't work).

However it's not 100%, some of the militia will hang on to their clothes.

I think they're trying(and failing) to switch into a civilian outfit, or something, despite being specifically ordered not to do so.

(0004963)
MaDeR Levap (reporter)
2010-04-25 02:05

It is worth check if these clothes changed into xclothesx. This could fail "exact match" test in some cases.

(0004967)
derigo (reporter)
2010-04-25 02:11

No they haven't. Also, I am not using 'specific' assignments, only type assignments. 'Exact match' in this case means 'plant fiber cloak' etc rather than one made of silk, not a specific cloak.

(0004971)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-25 02:15

Could this be the clothing equivalent of 0000774?

(0004975)
derigo (reporter)
2010-04-25 03:24

No I have stopped all crafting atm. It's also functionally different. In the bug you mentioned, the militia go and put the offending item away in a stockpile. In this bug, they just drop all their clothes in a pile wherever they happen to be standing and go get a drink.

(0009812)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-08 21:36

This one might be an arsenal dwarf related issue. I wouldn't say close it just yet though.

(0010375)
kwieland (reporter)
2010-07-15 14:53

persists in 31.10

(0010380)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-15 15:40

Do they drop their clothes at the end of each month?

(0012487)
Hieronymous Alloy (reporter)
2010-09-07 12:26

I seem to be having this same problem, or at least one very similar. I set a couple squads to train with only leather armor -- specifically, cloaks, trousers, gloves, and caps -- and no weapons (their metallic gear was waiting on magma development). There's now a bunch of leather items randomly around the barracks area, and now every so often a dwarf will wander out there with a "picking up equipment" message, fail to do so, then wander back with 'unable to complete order."
My guess is it's connected to the old bug with wrestlers tearing clothes off each other and scattering them permanently around the barracks, but I'm not sure.

(0017875)
kwieland (reporter)
2011-05-28 05:22

v31.25, I see this. For me, the clothes I find randomly around are all worn, ie XtrousersX, so maybe they are being replaced? Also, I've noticed that equipment dropped by the dwarves is sometime forbidden. I find 3-5 flasks every year forbidden. The flasks that are forbidden are filled with booze, if that helps. Also, often the weapons of dwarves are forbidden. I don't know how that happens, either.

(0021623)
Footkerchief (manager)
2012-03-20 19:48

Toady may need an up-to-date save (0.34.02+) to fix this problem. It would be helpful for someone to upload a save to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.

(0035658)
Loci (manager)
2016-07-19 06:45

This sounds suspiciously like 0001451, if the dwarves abandoning their uniform-assigned clothing had mining, wood-cutting, or hunting labors enabled. However, since no save was provided it is impossible to confirm that hypothesis. Regardless, much has changed in the intervening 5 years and uniform-assigned clothing appears to be mostly working these days (barring 0001451 shenanigans). If you come across this issue in a more recent version, and rule out 0001451, please open a new bug report.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-25 00:28	derigo	New Issue
2010-04-25 00:56	derigo	Tag Attached: Military
2010-04-25 00:56	derigo	Tag Attached: clothes
2010-04-25 00:56	derigo	Tag Attached: armor
2010-04-25 00:56	derigo	Tag Attached: clothing
2010-04-25 01:12	derigo	Note Added: 0004960
2010-04-25 02:05	MaDeR Levap	Note Added: 0004963
2010-04-25 02:11	derigo	Note Added: 0004967
2010-04-25 02:15	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0004971
2010-04-25 02:15	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-25 03:24	derigo	Note Added: 0004975
2010-07-08 21:36	smjjames	Note Added: 0009812
2010-07-08 22:34	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000535
2010-07-15 14:53	kwieland	Note Added: 0010375
2010-07-15 15:40	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0010380
2010-07-22 10:33	Dwarfu	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-09-07 10:43	Hieronymous Alloy	Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2010-09-07 12:26	Hieronymous Alloy	Note Added: 0012487
2010-11-16 15:06	Agak Roder	Issue Monitored: Agak Roder
2011-05-28 05:22	kwieland	Note Added: 0017875
2012-03-20 19:48	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0021623
2012-03-26 09:51	thvaz	Issue Monitored: thvaz
2012-04-11 12:04	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2016-07-19 06:45	Loci	Note Added: 0035658
2016-07-19 06:45	Loci	Status	new => resolved
2016-07-19 06:45	Loci	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce
2016-07-19 06:45	Loci	Assigned To	=> Loci
2017-07-21 21:24	thvaz	Issue End Monitor: thvaz

Notes
(0004960) derigo (reporter) 2010-04-25 01:12	more notes, uniform is set on 'replace clothing,' 'exact match,' squad is set to stay uniformed when off duty. This seems to happen when taking a squad off active station or, canceling a kill order (causing them to go civie), but it also seems to happen when they get sleepy hungry or thirsty enough to leave their post (they don't go civie in this case), or when they stop training(off-duty training, idk about on-duty training because I don't use it because it doesn't work). However it's not 100%, some of the militia will hang on to their clothes. I think they're trying(and failing) to switch into a civilian outfit, or something, despite being specifically ordered not to do so.

(0004963) MaDeR Levap (reporter) 2010-04-25 02:05	It is worth check if these clothes changed into xclothesx. This could fail "exact match" test in some cases.

(0004967) derigo (reporter) 2010-04-25 02:11	No they haven't. Also, I am not using 'specific' assignments, only type assignments. 'Exact match' in this case means 'plant fiber cloak' etc rather than one made of silk, not a specific cloak.

(0004971) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-25 02:15	Could this be the clothing equivalent of 0000774?

(0004975) derigo (reporter) 2010-04-25 03:24	No I have stopped all crafting atm. It's also functionally different. In the bug you mentioned, the militia go and put the offending item away in a stockpile. In this bug, they just drop all their clothes in a pile wherever they happen to be standing and go get a drink.

(0009812) smjjames (reporter) 2010-07-08 21:36	This one might be an arsenal dwarf related issue. I wouldn't say close it just yet though.

(0010375) kwieland (reporter) 2010-07-15 14:53	persists in 31.10

(0010380) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-15 15:40	Do they drop their clothes at the end of each month?

(0012487) Hieronymous Alloy (reporter) 2010-09-07 12:26	I seem to be having this same problem, or at least one very similar. I set a couple squads to train with only leather armor -- specifically, cloaks, trousers, gloves, and caps -- and no weapons (their metallic gear was waiting on magma development). There's now a bunch of leather items randomly around the barracks area, and now every so often a dwarf will wander out there with a "picking up equipment" message, fail to do so, then wander back with 'unable to complete order." My guess is it's connected to the old bug with wrestlers tearing clothes off each other and scattering them permanently around the barracks, but I'm not sure.

(0017875) kwieland (reporter) 2011-05-28 05:22	v31.25, I see this. For me, the clothes I find randomly around are all worn, ie XtrousersX, so maybe they are being replaced? Also, I've noticed that equipment dropped by the dwarves is sometime forbidden. I find 3-5 flasks every year forbidden. The flasks that are forbidden are filled with booze, if that helps. Also, often the weapons of dwarves are forbidden. I don't know how that happens, either.

(0021623) Footkerchief (manager) 2012-03-20 19:48	Toady may need an up-to-date save (0.34.02+) to fix this problem. It would be helpful for someone to upload a save to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.

(0035658) Loci (manager) 2016-07-19 06:45	This sounds suspiciously like 0001451, if the dwarves abandoning their uniform-assigned clothing had mining, wood-cutting, or hunting labors enabled. However, since no save was provided it is impossible to confirm that hypothesis. Regardless, much has changed in the intervening 5 years and uniform-assigned clothing appears to be mostly working these days (barring 0001451 shenanigans). If you come across this issue in a more recent version, and rule out 0001451, please open a new bug report.