0002022: Generic layers (e.g. "Rock"), metal stone (e.g. an unmined Black Bronze wall), deep soil layers, and cycling surface tiles

Notes
(0007160) almostsix (reporter) 2010-05-21 22:23 edited on: 2010-05-21 22:24	Okay, more progress. I found a way through the aquifer, and immediately hit a cave. I found several adamantine walls (of the metal sort), I found a few "Muddy Open Space" squares, and a few announcements that just didn't make sense: "You have discovered a magma pool!" (there was none), and "You have discovered a deep chasm!" Finally, the aquifer drains into the cave in a few places, making a large pool which then flows off the screen. This may explain why the map is so slow for me.

(0007163) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-22 00:05	Did you do any modding? Does your test editor create backups of saved files (e.g. body_default.txt~ for body_default.txt)?

(0007173) almostsix (reporter) 2010-05-22 06:08	All I changed was turning a few of the options in the d_init file off. (Temperature, weather, economy, I believe.)

(0007175) Logical2u (manager) 2010-05-22 06:23	This doesn't seem like it should be happening if you haven't done any modding. The random 'magic' tiles are indicative of an undefined stone/soil tile type, which I was only able to produce through modding. The cave announcements may actually working as intended. You may need to upload your save game for this one to be verified.

(0007236) Cryten (reporter) 2010-05-23 19:08	It sounds like the index has been put out in the ini files.

(0007481) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-30 01:32 edited on: 2010-05-30 01:32	Any updates on this one? It might be best to just upload your entire DF folder, minus any prohibitively large saves. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

(0007486) Dwarfu (manager) 2010-05-30 06:44	Should probably update the title to be a bit more descriptive.... Talking about rock layers & mats/soil layers/graphics...something to that effect - not really all that various.

(0010054) ChickenLips (reporter) 2010-07-12 12:06 edited on: 2010-07-12 12:12	I figured out at least one cause of this or a strikingly similar problem, and was able to reproduce it. (I saw it a couple of times before, but couldn't figure it out and fixed it by deleting the whole game and reconstructing it.) The issue as it appeared for me is this: After a worldgen, you look at any spot, and, instead of the usual different types of stone and soil layers, all layers show as "Rock". Eight layers of it. No other info. If you actually embark, the game will either crash (as it did for me), or you'll see all sorts of weird stuff, as the reporter saw. The cause of the problem, at least in my case, was backup/alternate copies of the raw files kept in the raw/objects directory. When I altered my raws, I would keep a renamed copy of the original in the raw/objects directory, figuring that if it was some other name, the game would ignore it. Nope! If you have any duplicate raws, even with the .txt extension removed, the game still reads them, resulting in hundreds of duplicate entries. Originally, I had the unchanged originals named such things as "inorganic_stone_layer (Original).txt". I then removed the extension from the filenames of all such files (names then being "inorganic_stone_layer (Original)" with no standard three-letter extension), ran a quick worldgen again, and the problem recurred. When I removed all these files from the raw/objects directory, my worldgens proceeded properly, and I again saw proper stone and soil layers. When I put them back in, the worldgen would again be borked. One big telltale sight was an errorlog.txt filled with megabytes of entries like "Duplicate Object: inorganic LOAM" and "Duplicate Object: material_template FAT_TEMPLATE" and so on, for all substances. Anyway, I don't know if this could be called a bug or not, but if you are seeing this error, it is likely this, and quite easy to fix. Just delete or move somewhere else all extra files you may have put in the raws. If you have alternate copies of any of the raw files, no matter what you named them, they may be causing it.

(0010061) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-12 12:52	Ah, thanks for investigating. That means it's 0001428, which is now going to get stickied.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-21 22:04	almostsix	New Issue
2010-05-21 22:04	almostsix	Issue Monitored: almostsix
2010-05-21 22:23	almostsix	Note Added: 0007160
2010-05-21 22:24	almostsix	Note Edited: 0007160	View Revisions
2010-05-22 00:05	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007163
2010-05-22 00:05	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-05-22 06:08	almostsix	Note Added: 0007173
2010-05-22 06:23	Logical2u	Note Added: 0007175
2010-05-23 19:08	Cryten	Note Added: 0007236
2010-05-23 19:08	Cryten	Issue Monitored: Cryten
2010-05-30 01:32	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007481
2010-05-30 01:32	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0007481	View Revisions
2010-05-30 06:44	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0007486
2010-05-30 06:45	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: Dwarfu
2010-06-02 09:46	Dwarfu	Issue End Monitor: Dwarfu
2010-06-21 12:25	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-06-21 12:25	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce
2010-06-21 12:25	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-06-22 03:06	Cryten	Issue End Monitor: Cryten
2010-06-22 03:36	ChickenLips	Issue Monitored: ChickenLips
2010-06-22 03:38	ChickenLips	Tag Attached: Please reopen for comment?
2010-07-12 00:41	ChickenLips	Tag Attached: I think I actually figured this one out -- reopen for comment pls?
2010-07-12 00:41	ChickenLips	Tag Detached: Please reopen for comment?
2010-07-12 01:00	ChickenLips	Tag Attached: raw files
2010-07-12 05:14	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Footkerchief =>
2010-07-12 05:14	Footkerchief	Status	resolved => new
2010-07-12 05:15	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: I think I actually figured this one out -- reopen for comment pls?
2010-07-12 12:06	ChickenLips	Note Added: 0010054
2010-07-12 12:12	ChickenLips	Note Edited: 0010054	View Revisions
2010-07-12 12:52	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0010061
2010-07-12 12:52	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0001428
2010-07-12 12:52	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-07-12 12:52	Footkerchief	Resolution	unable to reproduce => duplicate
2010-07-12 12:52	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-07-25 11:51	ChickenLips	Issue End Monitor: ChickenLips
2016-09-14 09:56	Loci	Summary	Various oddities => Generic layers (e.g. "Rock"), metal stone (e.g. an unmined Black Bronze wall), deep soil layers, and cycling surface tiles