0004062: Hunters who are also in the military don't train or pick up equipment

(0015411)
Kipi (reporter)
2011-02-23 05:00

Did you remove the hunting labor from the drafted dwarves? It's known that Hunting, Mining and Woodcutting labors tend to mess up with soldiers, as those labors are using invisible uniforms, which tends to mess up with the equipment picking.

(0015412)
AbuDhabi (reporter)
2011-02-23 05:04

I've tried that afterwards - undrafted them, removed Hunting, redrafted - but that did not help visibly.

(0015413)
Kipi (reporter)
2011-02-23 05:12

How long have you waited after assigning them a schedule? It sometimes takes quite long time before the dwarves realize that they had to go to train.

I assume that you remembered to set them active through the alerts, as other squads are training properly.

have you tried to order them to move somewhere, then canceling the order? This could trigger them to realize that they are not civilians anymore.

(0015417)
AbuDhabi (reporter)
2011-02-23 06:18

I've waited long enough for them to realize they should be military. They changed over to military mode, but didn't train or pick up equipment.

(0015419)
Kipi (reporter)
2011-02-23 06:56

Okay, just to make sure did you do the drafting this way:
-> Undraft the hunters
-> Resume the game and wait few seconds. Pause the game again
-> Remove the the labor from hunters
-> Resume the game again, wait few seconds and pause the game.
-> Draft the dwarves and set their schedule and uniform.
-> Unpause

Also, are the hunters in the squad of their own, or are there other soldiers in the same squad? Are the other soldiers training properly?

(0015420)
AbuDhabi (reporter)
2011-02-23 08:08

That's pretty much how I did it. The hunters were in a squad with other dwarves who trained properly. Right now they're mostly dead due a tantrum spiral, so anything I say is from memory.

(0015619)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-28 21:42

Reminder sent to: AbuDhabi

A save demonstrating the problem would be helpful. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

(0015624)
AbuDhabi (reporter)
2011-03-01 00:49

If I ever run into the problem again, I'll upload the save.

(0024320)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-01-22 09:13

Please PM me on the forums if you have a save reproducing this problem.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-02-23 02:00	AbuDhabi	New Issue
2011-02-23 05:00	Kipi	Note Added: 0015411
2011-02-23 05:04	AbuDhabi	Note Added: 0015412
2011-02-23 05:12	Kipi	Note Added: 0015413
2011-02-23 06:18	AbuDhabi	Note Added: 0015417
2011-02-23 06:56	Kipi	Note Added: 0015419
2011-02-23 07:20	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000535
2011-02-23 08:08	AbuDhabi	Note Added: 0015420
2011-02-28 21:41	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0001451
2011-02-28 21:41	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	child of 0000535
2011-02-28 21:42	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0015619
2011-03-01 00:49	AbuDhabi	Note Added: 0015624
2012-01-12 16:09	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0005020
2012-01-12 16:10	Footkerchief	Summary	Drafted Hunters don't train or pick up equipment => Hunters who are also in the military don't train or pick up equipment
2012-01-12 16:10	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003906
2012-01-12 19:18	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001374
2014-01-22 09:13	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0024320
2014-01-22 09:13	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-01-22 09:13	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce
2014-01-22 09:13	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief

Notes
(0015411) Kipi (reporter) 2011-02-23 05:00	Did you remove the hunting labor from the drafted dwarves? It's known that Hunting, Mining and Woodcutting labors tend to mess up with soldiers, as those labors are using invisible uniforms, which tends to mess up with the equipment picking.

(0015412) AbuDhabi (reporter) 2011-02-23 05:04	I've tried that afterwards - undrafted them, removed Hunting, redrafted - but that did not help visibly.

(0015413) Kipi (reporter) 2011-02-23 05:12	How long have you waited after assigning them a schedule? It sometimes takes quite long time before the dwarves realize that they had to go to train. I assume that you remembered to set them active through the alerts, as other squads are training properly. have you tried to order them to move somewhere, then canceling the order? This could trigger them to realize that they are not civilians anymore.

(0015417) AbuDhabi (reporter) 2011-02-23 06:18	I've waited long enough for them to realize they should be military. They changed over to military mode, but didn't train or pick up equipment.

(0015419) Kipi (reporter) 2011-02-23 06:56	Okay, just to make sure did you do the drafting this way: -> Undraft the hunters -> Resume the game and wait few seconds. Pause the game again -> Remove the the labor from hunters -> Resume the game again, wait few seconds and pause the game. -> Draft the dwarves and set their schedule and uniform. -> Unpause Also, are the hunters in the squad of their own, or are there other soldiers in the same squad? Are the other soldiers training properly?

(0015420) AbuDhabi (reporter) 2011-02-23 08:08	That's pretty much how I did it. The hunters were in a squad with other dwarves who trained properly. Right now they're mostly dead due a tantrum spiral, so anything I say is from memory.

(0015619) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-02-28 21:42	Reminder sent to: AbuDhabi A save demonstrating the problem would be helpful. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

(0015624) AbuDhabi (reporter) 2011-03-01 00:49	If I ever run into the problem again, I'll upload the save.

(0024320) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-01-22 09:13	Please PM me on the forums if you have a save reproducing this problem.