0007769: Historical Figure Necks Severed In Worldgen Aren't Fatal Until Rendered During Play

(0028052)
PK1312 (reporter)
2014-07-31 13:55

I have the save, but no idea how to upload it here.

(0028053)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-07-31 13:56

Sounds like one of those cases where a creature gets mortally wounded during legends, but doesn't actually die until the creature is loaded.

Also, got the save?

(0028054)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-07-31 13:59
edited on: 2014-07-31 13:59

To upload the save, first zip the file, then go to http://dffd.wimbli.com/index.php, [^] make an account if you haven't already (it's free) and after you've logged in, just click upload to get an upload post set up. Don't forget to actually upload the file while in that window.

Then after it's posted, just copy and paste the link.

(0028055)
PK1312 (reporter)
2014-07-31 14:06

Okay! Here's the save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9222 [^]

(0028058)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-07-31 14:51

Checked legends and it says:

"in 195, Gasom's neck was torn off by the giant anaconda Legendtops"

"in 195, the giant anaconda Legendtops was forced to retreat from Gasom, despite the latters wounds"

So, yeah, it's a case of mortal wounds happening during legends and worldgen not realizing the creature should be dead.

(0030453)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-09-29 13:53

Here's a new one, headless night creature.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9821 [^]

(0032073)
Footkerchief (manager)
2015-01-25 07:15

Is this one still happening in the latest version?

(0032443)
Footkerchief (manager)
2015-03-29 08:18

If anyone has a save that reproduces this problem in the latest version, please upload it to http://dffd.bay12games.com/ [^] and PM a manager on the forums (or reopen the report).

(0032617)
Dwarfu (manager)
2015-04-26 10:12

Reopening due to 0008938.

(0032620)
skyte100 (reporter)
2015-04-26 17:15

My apologies, I didn't see this one.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10804 [^]

He is unable to breathe, see, stand, or grasp(probably due to the lack of a brain), but he can still talk. Try not to think about that to much.
http://i.imgur.com/5mIvaN7.png?1 [^]

(0036180)
min40 (reporter)
2017-01-18 14:09

Something similar happened to me. Had a headless migrant who suffocated after walking in 10 tiles from the edge of the map.

(0036212)
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2017-01-23 00:32

This has relation to the acknowledged issue 0009763 (Dwarf missing upper body, but still alive.) given it is a similar example of the same circumstance of a entity member losing vitally crucial BP, & emigrating to a fortress as a living unit.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-31 13:54	PK1312	New Issue
2014-07-31 13:54	PK1312	Issue Monitored: PK1312
2014-07-31 13:54	PK1312	Issue End Monitor: PK1312
2014-07-31 13:55	PK1312	Note Added: 0028052
2014-07-31 13:56	smjjames	Note Added: 0028053
2014-07-31 13:59	smjjames	Note Added: 0028054
2014-07-31 13:59	smjjames	Note Edited: 0028054	View Revisions
2014-07-31 14:06	PK1312	Note Added: 0028055
2014-07-31 14:51	smjjames	Note Added: 0028058
2014-07-31 16:41	lethosor	Assigned To	=> lethosor
2014-07-31 16:41	lethosor	Status	new => acknowledged
2014-09-29 13:53	smjjames	Note Added: 0030453
2015-01-25 07:15	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0032073
2015-01-25 07:15	Footkerchief	Status	acknowledged => needs feedback
2015-03-29 08:18	Footkerchief	Status	needs feedback => resolved
2015-03-29 08:18	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce
2015-03-29 08:18	Footkerchief	Assigned To	lethosor => Footkerchief
2015-03-29 08:18	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0032443
2015-04-26 10:09	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008938
2015-04-26 10:12	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0032617
2015-04-26 10:12	Dwarfu	Status	resolved => confirmed
2015-04-26 10:14	Dwarfu	Resolution	unable to reproduce => open
2015-04-26 10:14	Dwarfu	Summary	Leader without a head => Historical Figure Necks Severed In Worldgen Aren't Fatal Until Rendered During Play
2015-04-26 17:15	skyte100	Note Added: 0032620
2015-04-26 18:42	skyte100	Issue Monitored: skyte100
2017-01-18 14:09	min40	Note Added: 0036180
2017-01-23 00:32	FantasticDorf	Note Added: 0036212
2017-08-03 05:58	park66665	Issue Monitored: park66665
2018-04-16 18:03	Huntthetroll	Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0028052) PK1312 (reporter) 2014-07-31 13:55	I have the save, but no idea how to upload it here.

(0028053) smjjames (reporter) 2014-07-31 13:56	Sounds like one of those cases where a creature gets mortally wounded during legends, but doesn't actually die until the creature is loaded. Also, got the save?

(0028054) smjjames (reporter) 2014-07-31 13:59 edited on: 2014-07-31 13:59	To upload the save, first zip the file, then go to http://dffd.wimbli.com/index.php, [^] make an account if you haven't already (it's free) and after you've logged in, just click upload to get an upload post set up. Don't forget to actually upload the file while in that window. Then after it's posted, just copy and paste the link.

(0028055) PK1312 (reporter) 2014-07-31 14:06	Okay! Here's the save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9222 [^]

(0028058) smjjames (reporter) 2014-07-31 14:51	Checked legends and it says: "in 195, Gasom's neck was torn off by the giant anaconda Legendtops" "in 195, the giant anaconda Legendtops was forced to retreat from Gasom, despite the latters wounds" So, yeah, it's a case of mortal wounds happening during legends and worldgen not realizing the creature should be dead.

(0030453) smjjames (reporter) 2014-09-29 13:53	Here's a new one, headless night creature. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9821 [^]

(0032073) Footkerchief (manager) 2015-01-25 07:15	Is this one still happening in the latest version?

(0032443) Footkerchief (manager) 2015-03-29 08:18	If anyone has a save that reproduces this problem in the latest version, please upload it to http://dffd.bay12games.com/ [^] and PM a manager on the forums (or reopen the report).

(0032617) Dwarfu (manager) 2015-04-26 10:12	Reopening due to 0008938.

(0032620) skyte100 (reporter) 2015-04-26 17:15	My apologies, I didn't see this one. http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10804 [^] He is unable to breathe, see, stand, or grasp(probably due to the lack of a brain), but he can still talk. Try not to think about that to much. http://i.imgur.com/5mIvaN7.png?1 [^]

(0036180) min40 (reporter) 2017-01-18 14:09	Something similar happened to me. Had a headless migrant who suffocated after walking in 10 tiles from the edge of the map.

(0036212) FantasticDorf (reporter) 2017-01-23 00:32	This has relation to the acknowledged issue 0009763 (Dwarf missing upper body, but still alive.) given it is a similar example of the same circumstance of a entity member losing vitally crucial BP, & emigrating to a fortress as a living unit.