0008479: Keas produce far too many vengeful thoughts by flying overhead, sending entire fortress into a stressed-out state.

Notes
(0030749) kicking jay (reporter) 2014-10-26 21:31 edited on: 2014-10-26 21:33	Presumably, any hostile [ITEM_THIEF] flying wildlife can produce this, since they will continuously enter into the dwarves' sphere of awareness and flee, probably ending in tantrum spirals: currently, nearly every one of my dwarves is flashing red arrow and seriously freaked out, as in crying-on-the-shoulder-of-the-expedition-leader freaked out. All in all, they shouldn't cause this much stress.

(0030813) lethosor (manager) 2014-10-31 12:55	A save uploaded to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] could make it easier for Toady to reproduce and fix this problem.

(0030815) kicking jay (reporter) 2014-10-31 14:45	Here's the save: one of the marksdwarves should slip into depression after a few minutes. Be aware I'm playing with tweaked entity ethics and a few other modded raws, but I don't think I modified anything that would have bearing on the issue. I can upload a set of the changes to the raws if needed. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10006 [^]

(0031008) Frogging101 (reporter) 2014-11-15 21:39	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10079 [^] Here's my save. No modified raws. You can check random dwarves and see that a lot of them have multiple vengeful thoughts. Also, my broker "has been under a great deal of stress in the long term", despite not (as far as I can tell) losing any family members and having thoughts that indicate he is otherwise almost completely happy. There have been buzzards flying around (there might still be some around at the time of the save as well), which would further suggest it is indeed caused by thieving birds. I don't know what happens after the point where I saved this; I'm afraid to continue because this game is going quite well and I don't want to start losing all my founding dwarves (and maybe the whole fort in the long run) to depression because of this bug.

(0031014) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-11-16 10:45	For comparison, crushing dwarves under bridges is a lot less traumatic to their fellow fortress dwellers than cheese being stolen by a bird.

(0031017) kicking jay (reporter) 2014-11-16 16:28	They don't even have to steal anything. They just have to be there.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-10-26 21:28	kicking jay	New Issue
2014-10-26 21:31	kicking jay	Note Added: 0030749
2014-10-26 21:33	kicking jay	Note Edited: 0030749	View Revisions
2014-10-26 21:33	kicking jay	Note Edited: 0030749	View Revisions
2014-10-29 17:00	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008490
2014-10-31 12:55	lethosor	Note Added: 0030813
2014-10-31 12:55	lethosor	Assigned To	=> lethosor
2014-10-31 12:55	lethosor	Status	new => acknowledged
2014-10-31 14:45	kicking jay	Note Added: 0030815
2014-11-12 11:04	Footkerchief	Status	acknowledged => confirmed
2014-11-12 11:04	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008542
2014-11-15 21:39	Frogging101	Note Added: 0031008
2014-11-16 10:35	Frogging101	Issue Monitored: Frogging101
2014-11-16 10:45	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0031014
2014-11-16 16:28	kicking jay	Note Added: 0031017
2014-11-17 07:17	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008539
2014-11-17 07:40	ralfp	Issue Monitored: ralfp
2014-11-17 09:39	Frogging101	Tag Attached: Save Included
2014-11-17 14:27	Toady One	Status	confirmed => resolved
2014-11-17 14:27	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-11-17 14:27	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-11-17 14:27	Toady One	Assigned To	lethosor => Toady One