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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0008923Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Thoughts and Preferencespublic2015-04-19 19:262015-04-20 00:23
ReporterDr_Hellno 
Assigned ToKnight Otu 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionduplicate 
PlatformPCOSWindows 7 64-bitOS VersionService Pack 1
Product Version0.40.24 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0008923: Migrants have emotions from witnessing events at the fortress that happened before they arrived
DescriptionI've noticed in my most recent game that many (thought not all) migrants to my fort tend to arrive with emotions pertaining to events that occurred at the fort before they showed up. Particularly, large quantities of arriving dwarves claim to have been horrified by witnessing the death of a jumping spider man, who died (mysteriously, possibly by jumping?) some time before their arrival. Many also claim to have felt nothing witnessing the deaths of some dogs and alpacas even further in the past.
Steps To ReproduceI haven't tried to reproduce this, so I can't say for sure, but I would guess:

1) start a fort
2) allow something to be murdered by wildlife, or by a cave-in or something
3) check thoughts of incoming dwarves in later migration waves.
Additional InformationIn my case, the dogs and alpacas were killed by a were-something early in the life of the fort. Later a jumping spider man was found dead, the report seems to suggest that he fell and... popped. I like to think he tried to jump too high. This is to say that the deaths were not all at the same time or from the same cause. I have no idea what causes some migrants to think they saw this all happen, while other migrants make no mention of it.
Tagsdeath, immigrants, morale, thoughts
Attached Files

- Relationships
duplicate of 0007435confirmedFootkerchief Dwarves overwhelmed by horror at the sight of the refuse stockpile 

-  Notes
(0032592)
Dr_Hellno (reporter)
2015-04-19 19:43

 Here is a save of the game I reference in the description:

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10781 [^]

To see the problem, check the reports screen and see that a jumping spider man was pulverized in 458, and some alpacas and dogs have reports from 457, when they died. Now open the unit list and check some of the "new arrivals" who arrived in 459. Some, including Etur Oslansesh, Iden Ustuthirid, and Reg Cattenamug claim to have witnessed all of these deaths. Other new arrivals, such as Etur Otungdakost and Solon Asrurast, make no such claims. To be clear, this issue has occured with earlier migrant waves as well, but that would be a bit more difficult to isolate and demonstrate.
(0032594)
MichaelB (reporter)
2015-04-19 22:06

 Do the migrants obtain these thoughts after going within sight range of the refuse stockpile storing the remains of these creatures?

If so, I believe this is normal behavior.
(0032596)
Knight Otu (manager)
2015-04-20 00:23

 The "horrified at seeing X die"/"felt nothing at seeing X die" behavior is 0007435. If you have evidence of other past events not seen by dwarves affecting them, please reopen this report or pm a manager on the forums.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2015-04-19 19:26 Dr_Hellno New Issue
2015-04-19 19:27 Dr_Hellno Tag Attached: morale
2015-04-19 19:27 Dr_Hellno Tag Attached: immigrants
2015-04-19 19:27 Dr_Hellno Tag Attached: thoughts
2015-04-19 19:28 Dr_Hellno Tag Attached: death
2015-04-19 19:36 Dr_Hellno Issue Monitored: Dr_Hellno
2015-04-19 19:43 Dr_Hellno Note Added: 0032592
2015-04-19 22:06 MichaelB Note Added: 0032594
2015-04-20 00:23 Knight Otu Note Added: 0032596
2015-04-20 00:23 Knight Otu Relationship added duplicate of 0007435
2015-04-20 00:23 Knight Otu Status new => resolved
2015-04-20 00:23 Knight Otu Resolution open => duplicate
2015-04-20 00:23 Knight Otu Assigned To => Knight Otu

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