0001026: Farm Plots Aren't Utilized Properly

(0002934)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-11 18:27

I would guess this is due to the farm plot straddling a biome boundary. Is that possible on your map?

(0002961)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-11 20:32
edited on: 2010-04-11 20:34

this feels similar to the problems in 0000087 but you say you're fully watering your farms so I'm not sure what's going on here. I don't have enough information to reproduce this and test further.

(0002962)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-11 20:34
edited on: 2010-04-11 20:36

actually, stop... where is the "hole"?
Is the center tile in your farm exposed to the outside ?

(0002973)
fong (reporter)
2010-04-11 21:50
edited on: 2010-04-11 21:52

Just started an outdoor farm, whole farm space utilized as opposed to my underground farms.

My underground farms are one floor below the surface. They are 3x3 rooms. The center tile on the surface was broken through and water was poured in using the Pond zoning feature. These holes were later built over with stone floors.

Just did some checking, and yeah DZ, its considered to be in the Light in the center farm tile despite having a stone floor built over the hole above. Did some digging, and after some minor fort flooding, I was able to build a plot underground with no light tiles in it. The dwarves filled it dutifully.

Guess I discovered a feature, beyond the whole not being able to block light thing.

(0002974)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-04-11 21:55

The Doctor is correct, then - as soon as it reached the middle tile below where you carved a hole, it stalled further planting as in 0000087.

(0002975)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-11 22:04

right right, that explains this one then. it's a bug in the farm that it's not utilizing the remaining tiles. Not using the center tile is correct however.

As for it being "light" that is consistent behavior with 40d. once a tile is "above ground" it is always above ground. although you can probably convert it to dark by replacing that floor with a wall instead.

It won't change the behavior of the farm however. It's still an above ground tile, so it's only good for surface plants. You'll need to make new farms.

(0002979)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-11 22:19

Good catch, DZ. I'm marking this one as a duplicate and retitling 0000087 accordingly.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-11 17:53	fong	New Issue
2010-04-11 18:27	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0002934
2010-04-11 18:27	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-04-11 20:32	DoctorZuber	Note Added: 0002961
2010-04-11 20:34	DoctorZuber	Note Edited: 0002961	View Revisions
2010-04-11 20:34	DoctorZuber	Note Added: 0002962
2010-04-11 20:36	DoctorZuber	Note Edited: 0002962	View Revisions
2010-04-11 21:50	fong	Note Added: 0002973
2010-04-11 21:52	fong	Note Edited: 0002973	View Revisions
2010-04-11 21:55	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0002974
2010-04-11 22:04	DoctorZuber	Note Added: 0002975
2010-04-11 22:19	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0002979
2010-04-11 22:19	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000087
2010-04-11 22:19	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-04-11 22:19	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2010-04-11 22:19	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-05-17 18:13	Logical2u	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-06-09 06:45	Toady One	Status	resolved => closed

Notes
(0002934) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-11 18:27	I would guess this is due to the farm plot straddling a biome boundary. Is that possible on your map?

(0002961) DoctorZuber (reporter) 2010-04-11 20:32 edited on: 2010-04-11 20:34	this feels similar to the problems in 0000087 but you say you're fully watering your farms so I'm not sure what's going on here. I don't have enough information to reproduce this and test further.

(0002962) DoctorZuber (reporter) 2010-04-11 20:34 edited on: 2010-04-11 20:36	actually, stop... where is the "hole"? Is the center tile in your farm exposed to the outside ?

(0002973) fong (reporter) 2010-04-11 21:50 edited on: 2010-04-11 21:52	Just started an outdoor farm, whole farm space utilized as opposed to my underground farms. My underground farms are one floor below the surface. They are 3x3 rooms. The center tile on the surface was broken through and water was poured in using the Pond zoning feature. These holes were later built over with stone floors. Just did some checking, and yeah DZ, its considered to be in the Light in the center farm tile despite having a stone floor built over the hole above. Did some digging, and after some minor fort flooding, I was able to build a plot underground with no light tiles in it. The dwarves filled it dutifully. Guess I discovered a feature, beyond the whole not being able to block light thing.

(0002974) Dwarfu (manager) 2010-04-11 21:55	The Doctor is correct, then - as soon as it reached the middle tile below where you carved a hole, it stalled further planting as in 0000087.

(0002975) DoctorZuber (reporter) 2010-04-11 22:04	right right, that explains this one then. it's a bug in the farm that it's not utilizing the remaining tiles. Not using the center tile is correct however. As for it being "light" that is consistent behavior with 40d. once a tile is "above ground" it is always above ground. although you can probably convert it to dark by replacing that floor with a wall instead. It won't change the behavior of the farm however. It's still an above ground tile, so it's only good for surface plants. You'll need to make new farms.

(0002979) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-11 22:19	Good catch, DZ. I'm marking this one as a duplicate and retitling 0000087 accordingly.