0003791: Various event details missing from XML dump

Notes
(0014480) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-12-09 14:43	Reminder sent to: Parker147 These issues didn't warrant 9 separate reports. If you find yourself making that many brief reports about closely related issues, that's a good sign that you can condense them. Also, the XML dump is not meant to be complete at this point. Like much of the game, it's an unfinished feature. Please only report actual bugs, e.g. if the XML export is crashing or producing malformed XML (cf. 0000404). Does that clear things up? Were there any actual bugs in these reports?

(0014482) Parker147 (reporter) 2010-12-09 16:05	I didn't know if should post them together or separate, but since there was an entire category "Legends Mode -- History Export" I thought it was fine to have them that way. I am attempting to make a program that recreates the Legends mode from the xml dump and have had success except for these events. The missing details listed makes it impossible to accurately remake them so I would consider them a bug. The details are listed in Legends mode as can be seen from the examples in "additional information". Especially since some are only missing a detail or two makes me think that they are mistakes and are not likely to be fixed unless they are reported. I also reported them not only to be fixed but for other people using the xml dump.

(0014483) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-12-09 17:16	Okay, I collected all the information in this report.

(0020313) Footkerchief (manager) 2012-02-20 18:58	Some of this has probably changed by now, but the larger issue is that the XML dump is not expected to be complete yet.

(0020554) Parker147 (reporter) 2012-02-23 10:19	None of this was changed in v34. The only things that changed in the XML Dump are the new properties for Historical Figures and some new types of events, which I have not had time to look through to ensure they are complete. Some of the properties added to the historical figures are related to these events, such as the add link events. So instead of fixing these bugs, some of the data now exists and as historical figure properties. Which makes things a bit of a mess. If you are loading the XML in order some of the new historical figure link properties can't reference the historical figures they refer to because they haven't been loaded yet, such as children. It would have made more sense to have fixed these events because events are loaded after all historical figures and entities have been loaded. I guess that wouldn't even solve the issues with some links though as there is no birth event, even in game, so you wouldn't be able to form the parent\child relationship from these events. Though it would have made more sense to have then add the parents to a property of the historical figure. Now I'm rambling and should probably make a suggestion thread on what I think needs to be done. Like I said before though, I know the XML dump is said to be incomplete and I didn't mention areas of the XML that are obviously left incomplete, but I think the data is intended to be complete in the sense that we should be able to use everything we are given so far and it is except for some of the missing event details. Since I have never heard Toady mention what state the XML is supposed to be in I'm assuming these are errors.

(0020555) Footkerchief (manager) 2012-02-23 10:34	Okay, if you these cases are weird enough to be unintentional, I'll leave this open.

(0020559) NW_Kohaku (reporter) 2012-02-23 11:29	If nothing else, it might be useful just to have a list reminding Toady what he might still need to do in XML dumps.

(0021369) Parker147 (reporter) 2012-03-11 11:48	Want to add a couple things to this. A new event added in v34 "assume identity" contains "identity_id", which is incorrect. First occurrence of this event starts with ID 0 and it just increments from there. There are a couple other non event details that I think needed to be noted Entities -Needs Race -Description of the entity, Civ, Group, Outcasts, Religion, Bandit Gang, etc Event Collections -Abductions Needs abductor Needs abductee -Beast Attacks Needs beast -Journey Needs hf I went ahead and put together a suggestion topic for some data changes that I want. In that topic I also included a list of all the data that I could think of that needs to be added to complete the XML. It can be found here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=73538 [^]

(0034254) Deity Link (reporter) 2015-12-29 01:35 edited on: 2015-12-29 01:36	Can we expect this issue to be fixed in the foreseeable future? It's still there in 0.42.04 It's a real pain for those using utilities like Legend Viewers.

(0039897) therahedwig (reporter) 2020-02-05 08:13	Historical figures now have position changes, but there's no way to tell what those positions are: the new generated positions(and their profile_ids) are not extractable in any manner from the legends.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-12-09 14:16	Parker147	New Issue
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003792
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003793
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003794
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003795
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003796
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003797
2010-12-09 14:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003798
2010-12-09 14:39	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003799
2010-12-09 14:43	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0014480
2010-12-09 14:43	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-12-09 16:05	Parker147	Note Added: 0014482
2010-12-09 17:09	Footkerchief	Summary	Event details missing from XML dump: add hf entity link => Various event details missing from XML dump
2010-12-09 17:14	Footkerchief	Description Updated	View Revisions
2010-12-09 17:14	Footkerchief	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2010-12-09 17:15	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-12-09 17:15	Footkerchief	Description Updated	View Revisions
2010-12-09 17:16	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0014483
2010-12-09 17:39	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0002955
2012-02-20 18:58	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0020313
2012-02-20 18:58	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2012-02-20 18:58	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => no change required
2012-02-20 18:58	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2012-02-23 10:19	Parker147	Note Added: 0020554
2012-02-23 10:19	Parker147	Status	resolved => needs feedback
2012-02-23 10:19	Parker147	Resolution	no change required => reopened
2012-02-23 10:33	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Footkerchief =>
2012-02-23 10:33	Footkerchief	Status	needs feedback => new
2012-02-23 10:33	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2012-02-23 10:34	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0020555
2012-02-23 11:29	NW_Kohaku	Note Added: 0020559
2012-03-11 11:48	Parker147	Note Added: 0021369
2015-12-11 16:24	Hedede	Issue Monitored: Hedede
2015-12-29 01:35	Deity Link	Note Added: 0034254
2015-12-29 01:36	Deity Link	Note Edited: 0034254	View Revisions
2015-12-29 01:36	Deity Link	Note Edited: 0034254	View Revisions
2020-02-05 08:13	therahedwig	Note Added: 0039897
2020-02-05 15:54	therahedwig	Issue Monitored: therahedwig