0008293: Dwarves not using bins - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

(0030186)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-13 21:08

What kind of items are in the stockpiles?

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Bin [^]
"Stockpiles that use bins are ammo, armor, bars/blocks, cloth, coins, finished goods, gems, leather and weapons. Food stockpiles use barrels and large pots instead of bins. Other stockpiles do not use anything at all."

(0030191)
gamzeeLover (reporter)
2014-09-14 11:06

i have stockpiles for everything, but no bins used, except for those from trading

(0030195)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-14 17:43

Please upload a save that reproduces the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.

(0030551)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-10-06 06:34

Sometimes bins work as well as they ever do. Sometimes dwarves seem very reluctant to use them. If I spot a clear case, I'll upload a save. :)

(0030554)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-10-06 14:19

Got one (Phoebus' Graphics Set save)

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9869 [^]

The 'bar/blocks' stockpile was changed just after creation to allow one bin. As you can see the dwarves have filled it up with blocks, but not used a bin, even though there are seven empty bins in the furniture stockpile.

After I changed it to allow the full number of bins they started to use them.

(0030581)
Loci (manager)
2014-10-08 14:22

The one bin you've allocated is indeed in the stockpile (a saguaro rib bin in the upper left corner). The only bug I see here is that your dwarves placed an additional block on the tile with the bin, "hiding" it.

Also, a bookkeeper would be quite useful for identifying if bins have been assigned to your stockpiles (on the "bins" details screen, bins assigned to a stockpile will show the stockpile's number).

(0030582)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-10-08 14:39

Oops! False positive then.

(0030587)
Tom013 (reporter)
2014-10-09 14:50

I believe I am encountering this same bug. I have uploaded a save here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9888 [^]

(0030589)
Loci (manager)
2014-10-09 16:55

@Tom013:

You've reserved 25 of your 13 bins for use in jobs that require a bin (e.g. "process plant to bin"), none of which exist in vanilla. Removing your reservation (in the stockpile menu) caused your dwarves to immediately start collecting crafts in the no-longer-reserved bins.

You also apparently assigned a bin to several furniture stockpiles, despite there being no binnable furniture.

(0030590)
Tom013 (reporter)
2014-10-09 17:34

@Loci:

Ah, well that explains that. Thanks! Sorry for the (extra) false alarm.

(The 1 bin assigned to furniture was me futzing with things trying to figure out why I couldn't get bins elsewhere)

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-09-13 17:19	gamzeeLover	New Issue
2014-09-13 21:08	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0030186
2014-09-13 21:08	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-09-13 21:08	Footkerchief	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-09-14 11:06	gamzeeLover	Note Added: 0030191
2014-09-14 11:06	gamzeeLover	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-09-14 17:43	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0030195
2014-10-06 03:56	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008406
2014-10-06 06:34	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0030551
2014-10-06 14:19	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0030554
2014-10-08 14:22	Loci	Note Added: 0030581
2014-10-08 14:39	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0030582
2014-10-09 14:50	Tom013	Note Added: 0030587
2014-10-09 16:55	Loci	Note Added: 0030589
2014-10-09 17:34	Tom013	Note Added: 0030590
2014-11-18 10:32	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => resolved
2014-11-18 10:32	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce

Notes
(0030186) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-09-13 21:08	What kind of items are in the stockpiles? http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Bin [^] "Stockpiles that use bins are ammo, armor, bars/blocks, cloth, coins, finished goods, gems, leather and weapons. Food stockpiles use barrels and large pots instead of bins. Other stockpiles do not use anything at all."

(0030191) gamzeeLover (reporter) 2014-09-14 11:06	i have stockpiles for everything, but no bins used, except for those from trading

(0030195) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-09-14 17:43	Please upload a save that reproduces the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.

(0030551) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-10-06 06:34	Sometimes bins work as well as they ever do. Sometimes dwarves seem very reluctant to use them. If I spot a clear case, I'll upload a save. :)

(0030554) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-10-06 14:19	Got one (Phoebus' Graphics Set save) http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9869 [^] The 'bar/blocks' stockpile was changed just after creation to allow one bin. As you can see the dwarves have filled it up with blocks, but not used a bin, even though there are seven empty bins in the furniture stockpile. After I changed it to allow the full number of bins they started to use them.

(0030581) Loci (manager) 2014-10-08 14:22	The one bin you've allocated is indeed in the stockpile (a saguaro rib bin in the upper left corner). The only bug I see here is that your dwarves placed an additional block on the tile with the bin, "hiding" it. Also, a bookkeeper would be quite useful for identifying if bins have been assigned to your stockpiles (on the "bins" details screen, bins assigned to a stockpile will show the stockpile's number).

(0030582) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-10-08 14:39	Oops! False positive then.

(0030587) Tom013 (reporter) 2014-10-09 14:50	I believe I am encountering this same bug. I have uploaded a save here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9888 [^]

(0030589) Loci (manager) 2014-10-09 16:55	@Tom013: You've reserved 25 of your 13 bins for use in jobs that require a bin (e.g. "process plant to bin"), none of which exist in vanilla. Removing your reservation (in the stockpile menu) caused your dwarves to immediately start collecting crafts in the no-longer-reserved bins. You also apparently assigned a bin to several furniture stockpiles, despite there being no binnable furniture.

(0030590) Tom013 (reporter) 2014-10-09 17:34	@Loci: Ah, well that explains that. Thanks! Sorry for the (extra) false alarm. (The 1 bin assigned to furniture was me futzing with things trying to figure out why I couldn't get bins elsewhere)