0009535: Can not to repeat exactly the map as the last time, and "Elven necromancy Towers"

(0034598)
CEHA (reporter)
2016-02-03 15:02

Sorry 4 bad english.
Always when elven civilization in this tape of good region.

(0034605)
Detros (manager)
2016-02-05 00:12

@"Can not to repeat exactly the map as the last time": World generation is randomised, with given seed settings you just get starting world but then time passes from year 0 to your selected year and civilizations may make new cities elsewhere and have war with somebody else...

(0034607)
Quietust (reporter)
2016-02-05 04:39
edited on: 2016-02-05 04:41

Detros: if you use all of the same worldgen seed values (along with all of the other worldgen parms being the same), then history during worldgen should unfold in exactly the same way, every single time - failure to do so is a bug.

(0034614)
CEHA (reporter)
2016-02-07 07:38

Elven TOWER is bug or not ??

One more map

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:ET 2]
    [SEED:aKo4ok2wmqKqMyw4OyoK]
    [HISTORY_SEED:uKySaiGCyWkamwIIU0Si]
    [NAME_SEED:iwKeeEyeQGas0WOys2eO]
    [CREATURE_SEED:GU6I44qqqY2OAouCM4Ie]
    [DIM:65:65]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:1504]
    [END_YEAR:150]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:2:50]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401]
    [RAINFALL:1:100:121:121]
    [TEMPERATURE:35:65:121:121]
    [DRAINAGE:1:100:121:121]
    [VOLCANISM:1:100:121:121]
    [SAVAGERY:29:100:121:121]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [POLE:NONE]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:100]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:10]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:15]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:10]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:30]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:20]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:20]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:20]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:20]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:30]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:30]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:30]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:20]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:16]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:16:64:128]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:16:64:128]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:10]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:8]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:768:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:512:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:500]
    [RIVER_MINS:100:25]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:1]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:1]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:20]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:50]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:20]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:50]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:50]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:14]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:21]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:15]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:256]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528]
    [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264]

(0034900)
slink (reporter)
2016-03-22 12:26
edited on: 2016-03-22 12:29

I have seen this also with 42.06. I attempted to reproduce the exact same world as I was playing, but my founding Dwarves did not appear in the Historical Figures. I then generated it again, perhaps five minutes later, and the number of historical figures was not the same between the two newly generated worlds.

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:The Portentous Universes 0000002]
    [SEED:fd8mVaIKiAl1rt3bDEtK]
    [HISTORY_SEED:JmWfAAp4wNpcHIPsTLtY]
    [NAME_SEED:xj0hlSDR14TaoFNXF396]
    [CREATURE_SEED:ADYuACgk0QejaZAeiZfa]
    [DIM:65:65]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:3000]
    [END_YEAR:1050]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:100:200]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:202:202]
    [RAINFALL:0:100:101:101]
    [TEMPERATURE:25:75:101:101]
    [DRAINAGE:0:100:101:101]
    [VOLCANISM:0:100:101:101]
    [SAVAGERY:0:100:101:101]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [POLE:NORTH_AND_OR_SOUTH]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:300]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:0]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:0]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:0]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:0]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:0]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:0]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:0]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:22]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:11]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:11]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:3]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:66:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:66:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:264:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:528:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:528:0:0]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
    [RIVER_MINS:25:25]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:6]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:12]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:10]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:264]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528]
    [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264]

The first attempt today resulted in:

Historical Figures 4608/5561
Sites 247/336
Artifacts 455/455
Regions 61/227
Underground Regions 75/125
Civilizations and other entities 332/398
Structures 158/158
Historical Maps
The Golden Age 24471/24471

The second attempt today resulted in:

Historical Figures 4762/5553
Sites 242/323
Artifacts 503/503
Regions 68/227
Underground Regions 75/125
Civilizations and other entities 331/397
Structures 163/163
Historical Maps
The Golden Age 25007/25007

Note: by founding Dwarves, I mean 1st of their kind, not the colonists.

Note # 2, That link above was generated by Mantis, from "# 2" without the space.

(0034902)
Button (reporter)
2016-03-22 13:37

Elven towers are sometimes a bug, sometimes not a bug. If elves build a tower, that's a bug. If elves conquer a tower, that's not a bug.

(0036912)
Dwarfu (manager)
2017-11-22 18:04

This is most likely the same seed problems as in 0006934. If you find it to be materially different than that report, contact a manager on the forums to reopen this with updated information detailing the difference.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2016-02-03 14:51	CEHA	New Issue
2016-02-03 15:02	CEHA	Note Added: 0034598
2016-02-05 00:12	Detros	Note Added: 0034605
2016-02-05 04:39	Quietust	Note Added: 0034607
2016-02-05 04:40	Quietust	Note Edited: 0034607	View Revisions
2016-02-05 04:41	Quietust	Note Edited: 0034607	View Revisions
2016-02-07 07:38	CEHA	Note Added: 0034614
2016-03-22 12:26	slink	Note Added: 0034900
2016-03-22 12:27	slink	Note Added: 0034901
2016-03-22 12:27	slink	Note Deleted: 0034901
2016-03-22 12:27	slink	Note Edited: 0034900	View Revisions
2016-03-22 12:29	slink	Note Edited: 0034900	View Revisions
2016-03-22 13:37	Button	Note Added: 0034902
2017-11-22 18:04	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0036912
2017-11-22 18:04	Dwarfu	Relationship added	duplicate of 0006934
2017-11-22 18:04	Dwarfu	Status	new => resolved
2017-11-22 18:04	Dwarfu	Resolution	open => duplicate
2017-11-22 18:04	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu

Notes
(0034598) CEHA (reporter) 2016-02-03 15:02	Sorry 4 bad english. Always when elven civilization in this tape of good region.

(0034605) Detros (manager) 2016-02-05 00:12	@"Can not to repeat exactly the map as the last time": World generation is randomised, with given seed settings you just get starting world but then time passes from year 0 to your selected year and civilizations may make new cities elsewhere and have war with somebody else...

(0034607) Quietust (reporter) 2016-02-05 04:39 edited on: 2016-02-05 04:41	Detros: if you use all of the same worldgen seed values (along with all of the other worldgen parms being the same), then history during worldgen should unfold in exactly the same way, every single time - failure to do so is a bug.

(0034614) CEHA (reporter) 2016-02-07 07:38	Elven TOWER is bug or not ?? One more map [WORLD_GEN] [TITLE:ET 2] [SEED:aKo4ok2wmqKqMyw4OyoK] [HISTORY_SEED:uKySaiGCyWkamwIIU0Si] [NAME_SEED:iwKeeEyeQGas0WOys2eO] [CREATURE_SEED:GU6I44qqqY2OAouCM4Ie] [DIM:65:65] [EMBARK_POINTS:1504] [END_YEAR:150] [BEAST_END_YEAR:2:50] [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1] [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0] [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401] [RAINFALL:1:100:121:121] [TEMPERATURE:35:65:121:121] [DRAINAGE:1:100:121:121] [VOLCANISM:1:100:121:121] [SAVAGERY:29:100:121:121] [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [POLE:NONE] [MINERAL_SCARCITY:100] [MEGABEAST_CAP:10] [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:15] [TITAN_NUMBER:10] [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000] [DEMON_NUMBER:30] [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:20] [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:20] [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:20] [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:20] [SECRET_NUMBER:30] [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:30] [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:30] [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:20] [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:16] [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1] [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:16:64:128] [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:16:64:128] [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:10] [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0] [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0] [VOLCANO_MIN:8] [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:768:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:512:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0] [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:500] [RIVER_MINS:100:25] [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1] [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1] [SUBREGION_MAX:2750] [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3] [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:1] [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100] [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:1] [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100] [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:20] [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:50] [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1] [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:20] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:50] [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1] [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5] [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:50] [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:14] [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:21] [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0] [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2] [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:15] [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000] [SITE_CAP:256] [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1] [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528] [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264] [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264] [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264] [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264]

(0034900) slink (reporter) 2016-03-22 12:26 edited on: 2016-03-22 12:29	I have seen this also with 42.06. I attempted to reproduce the exact same world as I was playing, but my founding Dwarves did not appear in the Historical Figures. I then generated it again, perhaps five minutes later, and the number of historical figures was not the same between the two newly generated worlds. [WORLD_GEN] [TITLE:The Portentous Universes 0000002] [SEED:fd8mVaIKiAl1rt3bDEtK] [HISTORY_SEED:JmWfAAp4wNpcHIPsTLtY] [NAME_SEED:xj0hlSDR14TaoFNXF396] [CREATURE_SEED:ADYuACgk0QejaZAeiZfa] [DIM:65:65] [EMBARK_POINTS:3000] [END_YEAR:1050] [BEAST_END_YEAR:100:200] [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1] [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0] [ELEVATION:1:400:202:202] [RAINFALL:0:100:101:101] [TEMPERATURE:25:75:101:101] [DRAINAGE:0:100:101:101] [VOLCANISM:0:100:101:101] [SAVAGERY:0:100:101:101] [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [POLE:NORTH_AND_OR_SOUTH] [MINERAL_SCARCITY:300] [MEGABEAST_CAP:0] [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:0] [TITAN_NUMBER:0] [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000] [DEMON_NUMBER:0] [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:0] [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0] [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:0] [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:0] [SECRET_NUMBER:22] [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22] [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22] [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:11] [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:11] [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1] [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127] [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:127] [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:3] [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1] [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0] [VOLCANO_MIN:1] [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:66:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:66:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:264:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:528:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:528:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:528:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:528:0:0] [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250] [RIVER_MINS:25:25] [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1] [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1] [SUBREGION_MAX:2750] [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3] [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0] [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100] [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0] [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100] [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0] [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100] [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1] [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2] [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1] [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5] [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25] [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:6] [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:12] [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0] [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2] [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:10] [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000] [SITE_CAP:264] [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1] [ELEVATION_RANGES:528:1056:528] [RAIN_RANGES:264:528:264] [DRAINAGE_RANGES:264:528:264] [SAVAGERY_RANGES:264:528:264] [VOLCANISM_RANGES:264:528:264] The first attempt today resulted in: Historical Figures 4608/5561 Sites 247/336 Artifacts 455/455 Regions 61/227 Underground Regions 75/125 Civilizations and other entities 332/398 Structures 158/158 Historical Maps The Golden Age 24471/24471 The second attempt today resulted in: Historical Figures 4762/5553 Sites 242/323 Artifacts 503/503 Regions 68/227 Underground Regions 75/125 Civilizations and other entities 331/397 Structures 163/163 Historical Maps The Golden Age 25007/25007 Note: by founding Dwarves, I mean 1st of their kind, not the colonists. Note # 2, That link above was generated by Mantis, from "# 2" without the space.

(0034902) Button (reporter) 2016-03-22 13:37	Elven towers are sometimes a bug, sometimes not a bug. If elves build a tower, that's a bug. If elves conquer a tower, that's not a bug.

(0036912) Dwarfu (manager) 2017-11-22 18:04	This is most likely the same seed problems as in 0006934. If you find it to be materially different than that report, contact a manager on the forums to reopen this with updated information detailing the difference.